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Pot good for Schizophrenia!
i suffer from schizophrenia and this is very good news to me..!
i will wait a while for this news to sink in to the medical community then i think i will see a doctor about a prescription for help with my symptoms..
Latest Research On Pot and Schizophrenia Runs Contrary to Mainstream Media Hype
May 26th, 2010 By: Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director
The mainstream media loves to spill ink hyping the allegation that marijuana causes mental illness, particularly schizophrenia. In fact, it was in March when international media outlets declared that cannabis use ‘doubled’ one’s risk of developing the disease. Yet when research appears in scientific journals rebuking just this sort of ‘reefer madness,’ it generally goes unreported.
Such is the case with a pair of just-published studies slated to appear in the journal Schizophrenia Research. The first study, conducted by a team of researchers at various New York state hospitals, the Yale University School of Medicine, and the National Institutes of Mental Health assessed whether there exists a causal association between cannabis use and the age of onset of psychosis in patients hospitalized for the first time for an episode of schizophrenia.
Despite previous media claims to the contrary, researchers concluded:
“Although the onset of cannabis use disorder preceded the onset of illness in most patients, our findings suggest that age at onset of psychosis was not associated with cannabis use disorders. Previous studies implicating cannabis use disorders in schizophrenia may need to more comprehensively assess the relationship between cannabis use disorders and schizophrenia, and take into account the additional variables that we found associated with cannabis use disorders.”
A separate study slated for publication in the same journal assessed the cognitive skills of schizophrenic patients with a history of cannabis use compared to non-users. Authors reported that patients with a history of marijuana use “demonstrated significantly better performance on measures of processing speed, verbal fluency, and verbal learning and memory” compared to abstainers. marijuana use was also associated with better overall GAF (Global Assessment of Functioning) scores compared to those of non-users.
Authors concluded: “The results of the present analysis suggest that (cannabis use) in patients with SZ (schizophrenia) is associated with better performance on measures of processing speed and verbal skills. These data are consistent with prior reports indicating that SZ patients with a history of CUD (cannabis use disorders) have less severe cognitive deficits than SZ patients without comorbid CUD. … The present findings also suggest that CUD in patients with SZ may not differentially affect the severity of illness as measured by clinical symptomatology.”
Both study’s findings are in line with previous (though virtually unreported) research indicating that marijuana is unlikely to instigate incidences of schizophrenia in the general population, that cannabis use among patients with the disease is associated with higher cognitive function, and that at least some schizophrenics find subjective relief from symptoms of the illness by using pot. Nonetheless, odds are the nobody from the mainstream media will be champing at the bit to report on them.
Bottom line: marijuana’s complex relationship with schizophrenia is far from understood, and likely won’t be for some time. But that doesn’t give the MSM a free pass to only promote one side of the story.
Cannabis Use May "Improve" Brain Function In Schizophrenics, Study Says
May 17, 2007 - Berlin, Germany
Berlin, Germany: Cannabis use is associated with improved cognition in schizophrenic patients, according to clinical trial data to be published in the journal Progress in Neuro-Psychopharmacology & Biological Psychiatry.
Investigators at the University of Berlin assessed the impact of cannabis on cognitive functions in schizophrenic patients who reported prior use of pot versus patients who reported no history of substance abuse. Researchers reported that cannabis use was not associated with any decline in cognition, and that those subjects who reported using marijuana prior to their first psychotic episode showed improved cognitive performance on certain tests compared to non-users.
"[T]o our surprise, cannabis abusing schizophrenic patients … achieved results either similar to those [achieved] by the non-using cannabis schizophrenic patients or, at times, performed even better than them," investigators concluded. "[R]ather than deteriorating neuropsychological performance, cannabis [use] prior to [a patient’s] first psychotic episode improved cognition in some tests."
According to the study’s authors, cognitive dysfunctions are present in more than 80 percent of patients diagnosed with schizophrenia.
A separate 2005 study by investigators at Manchester Metropolitan University in Britain previously reported that schizophrenic patients who consumed cannabis prior to disease onset possessed greater cognitive skills after ten years than did non-users.
Neurocognitive studies performed on healthy volunteers generally report that the use of marijuana, even long-term, is not associated with any significant or long-lasting declines in cognitive function.
Patients With Schizophrenia Report Subjective Benefits From marijuana, Study Says
May 6, 2010 - New Brunswick, Canada
New Brunswick, Canada: Male patients diagnosed with schizophrenia report obtaining subjective benefits from marijuana, according to survey data published in the March issue of the Canadian Journal of Nursing Research.
Investigators from Edmundston Regional Hospital, Psychiatry/Mental Health Department in New Brunswick, Canada surveyed eight men with schizophrenia who had a history of current or past cannabis use.
Researchers reported that subjects consumed marijuana "as a means of satisfying the schizophrenia-related need for relaxation, sense of self-worth, and distraction."
Survey data published in 2008 in the International Journal of Mental Health Nursing also reported that many schizophrenic patients obtain relief from cannabis, finding that subjects consumed cannabis to reduce anxiety, mitigate memories of childhood trauma, enhance cognition, and "improve their mental state."
The findings may help to provide insight as to why several recent studies have identified a non-causal association between the use of marijuana and schizophrenia.
For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director, at: [email protected]. Full text of the study, "Attraction to cannabis among men with schizophrenia: a phenomenological study," appears in the Canadian Journal of Nursing Research.
This is pretty interesting subject matter for me as a therapist who treats many cases of schizophrenia, A medical marijuana community member, and as someone who is pro-legilization. I have to say that I do agree with the study but that the study seems biast twoard marijuana, sure these benifits that this study has found are indeed true as I have witnessed them myself but it ignores the negative impact that marijuana can have on some people with shizophrenia.
It is important to keep in mind I work with only severe cases with people in crisis so that influences my experiences quite a bit, often times I have found that marijuana can increase hallucinations both auditory and visual and increase severity of depression, and/or anxiety, and/or paranoia, and/or delusions.
I would never recommend for anyone with severe schizophrenia in a time of crisis to use marijuana but I think it could help some, it does indeed improve cognitive functions as evidenced in this study.
I think marijuana could be a good solution for long term treatment of schizophrena for someone that has a good solid baseline and has their illness under control, for a patient that has good ADLS and high functioning medical marijuana would help them out substanstially again as evidenced in this study in addition to their normal medications.
As far as the studies which link the early onset of schizophrenia with marijuana use, these type of studies give me a good chuckle. Its easy to point fingers at pretty much anything leading to an early onset of shizophrenia because shizophrenia typically begins to manifest itself in the late teens and early twenties so its easy to point fingers and blame anything from nicotine to caffiene to marijuana to LSD. It is even easier to blame a drug because drug use has so many simuliarities to mental illness (example: If I took LSD on a normal basis as a teen and than in my twenties I am diagnosed with shizophrenia it would appear as if the LSD could have caused or even contributed to my schizophrenia when one examines my history and it would be very easy to establish many links between the two).
I have witnessed time and time again that the best treatment for shizophrenia for most people is these "long acting" injections or implants most psychiatrist use rispordol, even the most severe cases I have witnessed people become essentially cured of their illness. These medications can have some severe side effects in some cases such as involuntary muscle movements but I think for a lot of people the benifit does outweigh the side effects. I am no psychiatrist but I think that marijuana could be used in conjuction with these injections in a time where symptoms of 'disorganized thoughts', rapid speech, or really any cognitive impairments return. (I.E. The anti-psychotic isnt helping enough so try smoking a joint to get yourself to relax) The best time for this I would think would be before bed and possibly only if your having a hard time sleeping. ---Atleast if I was a psychiatrist and treating with medical marijuana that is how I would do it----
Last edited by deprave; 05-27-2010 at 02:49 AM.
Well if it works for you man, I was just about to ask you if it works for you? How it works for you? and how do you use it to work for you??? What is the negative and positive side of things...I think using it like you do in addition to another anti-psychotic is the best path, it would be nice to kick the anti-psychotics completly but I dont think we have found the answer on how to do that with solely marijuana just yet..perhaps higher doses of strains that are particuliarly high in CBD - different dosing methods and preperations...etc...its possible marijuana can act as a very good medicine for schizophrenia if we could establish the best regiment. (but ofcourse everyone is different so by best I mean 'common')
Originally Posted by ford442
Last edited by deprave; 05-27-2010 at 03:17 AM.
I disagree, so does this Documentary the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation made
The Downside of High
Can smoking pot make your kids psychotic? Perhaps. Recent studies have linked regular marijuana use with schizophrenia.
Last edited by canniboss; 05-27-2010 at 09:06 PM.
Reason: whoops typo
I'm not a doctor, but I smoke lots of pot and I'm kinda crazy.
I'm pretty sure you can find it on google somewhere, it's interesting and well made, It has a definite "use at you own risk" vibe. Worth watching if you find this sort of thing interesting.
schizophrenia is a hereditary - like I said its easy to blame anything on being a possible cause for schizophrenia as it most often comes in the late teens and early twenties. There has been no studies that prove without a shadow of a doubt that anything besides genetics is the cause. It is especially easy to blame substance abuse because people typically use drugs in their teens and early twenties and substance abuse is so closely linked with someones mental health.
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