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Old 02-14-2009, 09:44 AM
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Best thing for bugs IMO is a tobacco spray that you make by taking a pack of american spirit cigs (No additives) and a quart of water. (remove tobacco from sleeves) Simmer for half an hour and cool. Add another quart of water and spray bottom of leaves first, then undersides of leaves. Don't foget the top of the soil in the container nor the walls surrounding your plants. i have used this method with great success on Spider mites as well as thripes. it also works 100 times better than the typical Neem oil, Safer soaps, anything I ever found. Also this is widely used among commercial nurseries but very expensive and must be used with care because it is very toxic. Wear rubber gloves, and nose and mouth protection. last but not least; This is a completely organic solution and will not affect the taste, smell or any other characteristic of your plants. Within a day or two it will all be absorbed by the plant - the bugs WILL BE GONE and life will be good again.
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I'd sure like to get my hands on some Floramite SC or Avid.

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thats because you probably run or work for the site and havent tried anything else.. there is plenty of other effective methods that dont require ordering predatory mites

I was just giving my 2 cents, it has worked well for me for over 10 years... It's just another option. I got tired of .
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ORGANICIDE all the way! It stinks, but it works great. Its only like $13 at home depot and it kills adults and eggs. Mix it with some neem oil and you now have a systemic as well.
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dope plus rep for the organicide recomendations! never heard of it so thank u!
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I gave trial #2 a go... and burned the shit out of my plants.

Anyone wanting to try this.. I highly suggest a better rinse than a "spritz" of water afterward.

I may as well have used a flamethrower to kill the mites. FUCK.

Oh well... live and learn I guess. Neem WILL control the 2 spotted mites, you just have to stay on top of it and stick a a scheduled maintenance, but on my quest for a bigger faster and better way I did way more harm than good.

For anyone trying out any of these ideas, do yourself a big favor, and try it on only one plant first, dont be an idiot like me and go all in.


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I have been experimenting with similar formulas, so far 2 work.
Trial #1: 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 1/2 cup apple juice. Dilute to 2 liters.

Trial #2 1/2 cup baking soda , 1 cup vinegar , 3 tablespoons lemon juice , 2 drops dish soap .
Dilute to 40 fluid oz's.

I've tried this on: Wandering Jew,Spider Plant,Fushias,Gladiolis,Roses,Sweet Elysium,Clovers,Daisy,
Rhodadendron, Lawn(grass)
So far it works,both formulas. #2 works best outside and best overall
It has killed any small insects I've tried it on except FLEAS(Darn it!)
So far its killed mites,thrips(Adult),aphids,clover mites, whatever mite type insects that were all over the Gladiolis and it sickened and effected Grass Gnats and mosquitoes.(the mist knocked them down,couldn't find them in the grass to watch if they died but they were having difficulty flying)
I'm waiting for long term effects on the plants I've sprayed,before I'll try it on my plants.
Try mixing up some and try it outside on whatever you can find with an infestation.
The original recipe from a Landscape gardener was: 1/2 cup baking soda, 1 cup vinegar,2cups apple peels.
Blend/Puree , filter , dilute to 2 liters. I haven't tried this one yet (no apple peels).
The trick seems to be 1/2 cup Baking soda to 1 cup vinegar,diluted to approximately 2 liters.
The dishsoap helps wetting & the juices boost effect. #2 seems to help with molds/fungus also.It reduced blackspot on Roses,Gladiolis and Rhodi's and white mold on Roses.( The coast is a perfect proving ground for this stuff!!! We have ALL the bugs and molds !!! I don't have to go far to find infestations of all kinds.)
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"REPORT:
For 2 days I have hosed my backyard with this stuff,so far it has reduced blackspot & powdery mildew(white mold),killed all the small insects(size seems to matter on kill,gnats or smaller).
The only plants adversely affected so far are FERNS (they don't like it much,wilted some).
The fleas seem unaffected as are the garden spiders,wood lice,beetles and other large hard insects.
I'm using it far more than necessary to see if it hurts the plants. Repeating doses even after the bugs are dead. The gladiolis were REALY bad with blackspot mold and some kind of black sucker insects about the size of a pinhead.The Glads are doing fine both mold and insects gone! The wandering jew and spider plants are actualy perking up from it.The clover mites? WIPED OUT! Rose mites? WIPED OUT! Grass gnats and mosquitoes? VASTLY REDUCED! Scale insects? DEAD! Aphids?DEAD!
[THE GARDEN??? (smells like a "Caeser Salad" ! ) ALIVE.]
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There seems to be some mild burning where the solution was left on and collected/concentrated.
I would recommend using the 2 liter dilution and spritzing with fresh water afterward and shaking off as much as possible so the formula doesn't collect and concentrate itself to the point it burns tender leaves.
I didn't notice any damage except where it had concentrated and dried,so spritzing and shaking off should do the trick.As far as effectiveness goes,wow! The death and destruction it deals to mites is impressive !!
Popping browning eggs melting,imploding adults,body parts and debris slowly dissolving......
EXTREMELY GRATIFYING !!!
TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT !!
The BORG rule ,of mite terror, is OVER !!!!

WARNING !!
A member had severe burning that he attributes to residues drawn out of the container by the vinegar.
USE A CLEAN CONTAINER !! Do not use realy strong vinegar or any with SULFITES in it.
NO SULFITES"

BOTTOM LINE IS IT WORKS AND THEY DON'T COME BACK

Continue fighting the good fight.. hope this helps everyone

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yea i never ended up trying that one once i started using the nicotine tea.. it works the best unless you have access to floramite or avid.
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I gave trial #2 a go... and burned the shit out of my plants.

Anyone wanting to try this.. I highly suggest a better rinse than a "spritz" of water afterward.

I may as well have used a flamethrower to kill the mites. FUCK.

Oh well... live and learn I guess. Neem WILL control the 2 spotted mites, you just have to stay on top of it and stick a a scheduled maintenance, but on my quest for a bigger faster and better way I did way more harm than good.

For anyone trying out any of these ideas, do yourself a big favor, and try it on only one plant first, dont be an idiot like me and go all in.

ME TOO! FUCK! Burnt all the pistils on my plant! I'm quite pissed off about this.

DO NOT USE #2 during flowering!!! It WILL ruin your plant FUCK!
 

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