Ok, so check this out. I am no stranger to bugs and bug problems I have had to fight my fair share of the lil bastards in the past but I have NEVER encountered mofos as powerful as the ones I am about to describe to you.

when I dunked, i completely submerged them, when I sprayed, I saturated the tops and bottoms of the leaves...here we go

So when I got the clones I noticed a few of these lil mongrels.. I mixed up a solution of neem oil, dishwashing soap, and safer insect soap.

I dunked the clones in the mixture every three days for two weeks. I had cloned the clones successfully and hadnt noticed em too bad but continued to spray with neem/water every five days or so.

As I noticed em more and more I started spraying the lil shits with a product called hot pepper wax which is a cayenne pepper spray I think. I would spray them thorougly every other day.

eventually I started flowering and noticed a few here and there so I alternated spraying them with hot pepper wax, fox farms dont bug me, and neem oil/ safer soap/water combo.

a few weeks in to flowering a couple of my plants started to speckel really bad so i bombed them with a .05 percent pyrethrum bomb. A few days later under inspection of a microscope I saw the lil bastards running around.

So I decided to buy a commercial 4.0 percent pyrethrum bomb which isnt even supposed to be used in residential applications! So I bombed them today, waited about 6 hours, went in picked off a leaf and.....

THE MOTHERF*CKERS ARE STILL ALIVEE!!!!!

I have never encountered such resistant spider focks in all my life and I am at my wits end!!

I am about to hit 4 weeks into flower so I cannot bomb my babies any more and have tried about everything that has ever worked for me.. now on one of my babies im starting to see the lil fucks weaving webs on one of the leafs!!

the only other option I can imagine at this point is brewing up a nicotine spray but I am worried that It will get in my buds and make em all nasty tasting like cigarettes!!

My other concern is that If I bombed these bastards with 4.0 percent pyrethrum bomb even when I cut this whole crop down are they still gonna be milling around my room? I could bomb them every day for a week and they would still be kickin!!

Has anyone ever had this much trouble with these lil bastards?
Does anyone have any suggestions on products I can use this late into flower? I am truly at a loss for words!

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why don,t you get some lady bugs they eat spider mites they will not hurt anything

And here I was gonna suggest tobacco tea.. but if they survived the big pyrethrin bomb.. holy shit.

I didn't have any luck with neem, the tobacco tea has taken care of all my problems. Except heat.

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tear it all down. bleach, paint and start over. seriously.

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I have tried lady bugs... once your light comes on they pretty much commit suicide and fly into the light... then theres just a shit ton of lady bugs to clean up... Predator mites I have never tried but never heard many rave reviews about them..

as far as tobacco tea how late can you use it into flowering??does it harm your buds at all? and I am wondering if that will even work considering the commercial greenhouse bomb wouldnt kill em LOL!

What recipie do you use? I have heard get bali shag or american spirit, boil it in about a gallon of water, take that gallon and do 1 part tobacco water to 10 parts water does that sound about right?

anyone else have alternative suggestions? I am willing to try anything at this point even ancient voodoo mystical shit is sounding good about now

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I want to finish this crop out cuz It wouldnt feel right not to but I am most def going to bleach and clean everything, bomb the room three times and clean the shit out of the whole room before i put my next batch in... and I sure as hell am not going thru the same connect!!!

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I use American Spirit or Bali Shag because there are no additives. The Bali Shag is a good quality tobacco, but American Spirit will do the job since I'm spraying it on plants, not smoking it.
My specific recipe:
10grams loose tobacco stirred into 1 liter HOT water (not boiling). Let steep overnight. Strain. Add just a drop of non-antibacterial/anti-microbial dish soap (if you can't find that, add a flake or two of Ivory). Spray, ensuring you hit EVERY surface, and the soil surface. I use a hand-held pump sprayer that I got at Walmart for $6-$7.

It should not harm the buds at all. I've used it on very young seedlings with no harm to the seedlings (paying attention, of course, to the time of day). It may need reapplication within a day or two. Don't store the tea, use it up or toss it, but take care where you toss it because it will kill a lot of things, including aquatic organisms.

Before harvest, I would lightly mist off the plants because of the soap, I wouldn't want soap residue. Although, I use so little that it doesn't even really make bubbles, it just helps break the surface tension of the water and makes it not smell like an ashtray (my setup is right outside our bedroom, so anything I put on the plants I get to smell all that night).

There are some plants that tobacco tea should not be used on, such as eggplants and.. crap, I can't remember all of them. The reason is because they're susceptible to something called tobacco mosaic virus. Mary jane isn't.

Your key is to make sure you get that tobacco tea into every fucking crack and crevice, every surface, every nook, every cranny. THEN hit that soil surface, too. If you think they may be hiding out on equipment, spray it. I must admit, I am stunned the bomb didn't kill them. Tough little motherfuckers. I hope they're not The Terminator Mites or some such shit.

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I have heard that floromite is pretty good but your not really supposed to use them in flower because of the half life of the chemical or some shit I dont remember... I dont want anyone gettin sick from my meds!!! I guess I will have to brew up some nicotine tea but shit man If the bomb wont kill em I dont know what will... it sucks because I still have five weeks left in my cycle and If I cant keep em at bay they are going to take over my shit LOL these mites in norcal are redic!!

When I used to live down south you could spray them one time with neem and they were goners.. if you bombed your room you could throw a clone in there with 100 mites on there and they would die from the residue lol I guess they breed em bad up here haha

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I have also heard something about burning an intense amount of sulpher or co2 has anyone tried that with any degree of success?

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