Whats wrong?

I'v read, I'v searched. And I have a few different theories of what could be wrong, but really, I don't have a clue....

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The lights have just been changed to 12/12 2 days ago. They were at 24 for about 3 months, so the first nights was 6 hours darkness, than 8, than 10 and now 12 for 2 nights. 1/2 the plants were showing signs of nute difficiency, so MG was used at the recomended indoor strength. Now one is having serious problems. The leaves are yellowing very quickly up the plant, and they have brown spots. The tips were trimmed, and the trim site is turning brown. Where the leaf segments are over laying each other, there is a yellow 'shadow' on the bottom segment.

I think its getting burned really quickly and it should be flushed, and than I wonder... is it overwatering? The leaves are not curling like I read they would. WTF is going on?

whats your ph level. you gave it full dose on the package. then thats the problem.

weekly schedual (dirt & hydro IF you change the water weekly) and Phasic feeding for bubblers.
Phasic shedules can be followed for soil-- but do not work as well!

ALL MEASURES ARE PER U.S. GALLON...
Hope this helps!!!


EDITED NOTE FOR PHASIC FEEDINGS!!!
Unless your Nutes specific schedule tells you what to do for sprouting and seedling, you need to cut back on the nutes for that stage BEFORE youconsider it to be "phase one"
Week ONE is NOT as soon as they are sprouted and have leaves! Week one is after they have 4 sets of true leaves---
Start your new seedlings in JUST Ph adjusted water (can use hydrogard & superthrive)
When they get their 3rd set of leaves--add HALF of the amound called for in phase 1 of your phasic schedule--
When they open another 2 sets of leaves (fully!) then add the other 1/2 to bring it to the amount required for "Phase 1" this will greatly reduce the possibility of nute-burn or over feeding...and allows the babies to adjust to the nutes easier.

FOR MIRACLE GROW NUTES :

If you really MUST use Miracle Grow Nutes or Soil cuz there isn't anything else available (cost can't be a reason, MG is about the same price as some organics !)

THEN USE THIS GUIDE PLEASE!!!

(enough for 2-3 plants .. just use more jugs for more plants!)
Get regular miracle grow (Not tomato or Rose food or azalea formula!)
AND Blossom Booster (or Schultz Professional Bloom food)
get 2- 1 gallon jugs of spring water from the store (about $1 each)
and an empty jug. Mark them (A) (B) & (C) --- (B) is the empty jug!

in the 1st jug (A) mix the MG at 1/4 the recomended rate for indoor plants.

In the 2nd jug (C), mix at 1/2 stregnth for indoor plants.

pour 1/2 of both into the empty jug (B)

Now-- when your plants get their 3rd set of leaves, feed once every 10 days. Start with (A) for the 1st 2 feed... then (B).. and end-up with (C) the week before you go 12/12.

FLUSH YOUR PLANTS WITH 5 GALLONS OF CLEAR WATER BEFOR GOING 12/12!

MG builds up-- and will lock-up as you add the stronger bloom nutes!
as the final part of the flush-- pour in a couple pints of your new bloom nutes (see below)


Do the same with your bloom nutes, Mix ahead in larger amounts... BUT--mix Jug (A) at 1/2 rate, Jug (C) at full stregnth-- and (B) the 2 mixed.

Start with (A) the 1st day of 12/12, then again in 10 days,
then switch to (B). Do not switch to (C) until the week before you flush for harvest!
when the trichomes just start turning cloudy, give em their last dose. In 10 days, check the trichs again.. if not all cloudy, you can feed again-- But go back to (B)

MAKE SURE TO FLUSH WELL AND WAIT THE FULL 2 WEEKS TO HARVEST!

You need to flush all the Nitrogen and magnesium out of the plants-- so Flush them well, put back in the bloom room the full 2 weeks till harvest, water as needed .. but absolutely no nutes or foliar sprays!

IF you foliar fed during the grow-- be sure to use a sprayer of water to gently shower it off the plants! (also gets rid of dead bugs & dust stuck to the buds!)

USING MG SOIL IS NEVER RECOMENDED!!
it has TIME RELEASED nutes-- so flushing is impossible... and you do not know how much nutes are being released or used by the plants.
If yYou Used MG soil, do NOT nute at all during veg... and use only additional P-K and suppliments without "N" during bloom...
And pre-harvest flushing can NOT be done on the normal 2 week schedule because of the time released nutes-- you must emergency flush when the trichs are how ya want em...



Cut the plant off at soil level. Place plant in a bucket with enough PLAIN tapwater to cover the base, but not touch lower limbs or vegetation....

Add a bubbler to the bucket to help "fool" the plant into thinking it is still alive (this only works up to 4 days before they wilt!)
Tthe plant will now use the nutrients stored in it's system . Leave under the lights at least 2 days-- up to 4 (3 is the usual amount)
IF you are one who puts their plants in the dark the last 3 days, give em at least 24 hours under lights before ya do... the photosynthesis will help the plant flush out unused nitrogen.


When using MG Fertilizer (as well as Schultz or Peter's ) Watch for:
Clawing
brown dry spots
crinckling leaves
pale new growth
Yellowing

if these happen, flush the plant, and wait 2-3 days before feeding again.
If Using MG soil and this happens, your best route is to re-plant in a bigger planter with different soil... DO NOT try to remove the existing soil from the roots of the plant!!!!

Good luck--
MG may not be the best-- but it CAN work!

HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR UP THE "HOW DO I USE THIS" QUESTIONS!!!

Source: Lady Zandra

OMG! Holy burn! Is flushing it going to help? I'v got to get most of that crap out of there! How do I do that? Is it too late? It's only been 2 days, but its moving quick! I can see differences by the hours, literally.

what size pots are they in and what for soil. do you have a ph tester?
i will tell you how to flush after this info

They are in 17 qt pots, and the soil is a mixture of 1/3 Scott's 9 month time release flowering nutes, 1/3 $.99 cheap shit potting soil, and 1/3 composted manure. I don't have a ph tester, but I guarentee I will by the end of the day!

ok i dont think thier slow release nutes are as bad asmg`s. so take 2 to 3 times your pot volume of straight water and run it through the plants and no nutes after. let them dry up for a few days almost to the point of wilting. then start with the above feed schedule or even weeker till the slow release nutes are used up.
if you can afford a ppm/ec/ph pen combo that is what i would get. that way you would be able to tell how strong the nutes in soil still are by the run off.
dont get an aquarium or pool ph tester they dont have the same scale as what you want, a cheepo liquid tester is only about 7 or 8 bucks but the combo coulkd run up to 200.00 bucks. i have the liquid ph and a oakton ec pen for 70 bucks and it works fine for me.
do you have any bloom nutes

Not for soil. I'm going to a garden center & grocery store (for the water) to pick up some things. I'll be sure to pick some up. Any recomendations?

Ok, I'm pretty sure I know what to do. I'm going to the store now. If anyone else has any input, please feel free. And wish me luck, I'm pretty sure this ones a girl....

not sure on recomendation for what but the ph tester i have is from general hydroponics. the scale goes from 4.0 to 8.5. most pool ones and aquarium dont go that low or high. it dont matter on the brand just the scale range.
you using bottled water from store? waste of money, just let water sit out over night and it will be fine just ph it first to see. also will need small bottles of ph up and down, if you cant afford it ( it`s cheep 10 buck a gallon) i do have some home remadies.
i dont think you will find marijuana nutes at a garden center, but get a bloom nute like mentioned earlier, if you have a hydro store i would recomend getting the right stuff. bottles are usualy about 20 bucks. i use botanicare pure blend pro bloom, cal-mag and liquid karma for my base nutes. you want low nitrogen and high phosphorus and potasium for flowering. if you can get something organic thats easier to work with.