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Old 06-27-2008, 04:09 PM
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Default Droopy, dark green leaves with lots of tiny bumps

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I have three plants, one is doing great, but the other two are a lot taller and the buds are weaker looking. Their white hairs have not started turning amber yet, but they are receding back into the bud. The buds are not as fat as they are on the healthy plant. The leaves on the unhealthy plants are droopy, limp, small, very dark green, and have lots of little bumps on them. The leaves at the top of the plants are the smallest and the droopiest and the bumpiest and the darkest green.

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Really bad ventilation. It gets up to 98 degrees, but I do have an exhaust fan. I open it to completely exchange the air twice a day.
I water when the soil is dry - about once every two or three days.

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Old 06-27-2008, 04:15 PM
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Really bad ventilation. It gets up to 98 degrees
thats the problem thats wayyyyyyyyyyy to hot
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What soil? You need constant ventilation, the air needs to be exchanged every 5 minutes. It shouldn't be hotter than 85 really. What are you fertilizing with?
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Thanks for the tip. None of those pics looked like it, so I will get a buddy with a camera over here this weekend.

I know the ventilation is bad. I ran out of money, but I will have a much better setup next month when I start over from scratch. It's been getting that hot in there for the life of the plants since they were seedlings and there has not been a problem yet til now - 5 weeks into flower. I did get a little nitrogen deficiency but it went away when I repotted with organic soil from the independently owned garden shop. No nutes so far.

Another detail I left out is the fish tank bubbler running in a jug of fermented sugar water. The yeast is old and dead and it smells sour. I need to make up another batch. The prob seemed to start when the yeast died.

Thank you so much for you prompt replies. I will post pics soon if I am able.
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home brew co2 is very helpful in higher temp conditions.
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A humidity and temperature gauge are essential in any growroom. Daytime conditions should be 70-80 degrees without co2, 80-90 degrees with co2 until the last two weeks when daytime temps should be kept between 70-80 and co2 can be reduced to adjust for the lower metabolism......
I always thought that was neat a kind of bandaid for when you just are having a
little problem keeping temp down.
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You can see that plant 1 is looking pretty good. Plant 2 is a little worse off, and plant 3 is very sick. You can see the bumps on the leaves of plant 3 in this picture. Plant 1 has a few of those bumps on the very topmost leaves, but not many to speak of.
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Bump back to the top. Still need help. Pics added.
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wow it looks like a lizard skin....
is it possible to take a pic of the back side of the leaf?
up close.... I really would like to study this....
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wow it looks like a lizard skin....
is it possible to take a pic of the back side of the leaf?
up close.... I really would like to study this....


Yes. Give me 10 mins.
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i've seen those bumps on a few of my plants. is that plant a clone? was it cloned while the mother was in flower? thats what mine did. the curling , drooping thing could be heat or too much nutes. when i started growing i used nutes and some of the strains i had at the time would curl with the littlest amount of fertilizer maybe that strain is very sensitive
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