Did my homework, but could use some advice on my 1st grow - Page 2

KILR0Y · #11 05-20-2008, 10:58 AM

Here you see some of the more severe damage, on a lower node. As stated earlier, there is still some remnants of purple in the stem, but the higher up the plant you go, the healthier she looks. I love the resolution on this shot, but had to severely crop it to keep the rez. Thoughts on this damage would be appreciated. Also curious why she droops so severely at night. One more setup pic coming up.

KILR0Y · #12 05-20-2008, 12:33 PM

OK, I think i'm done laying out all the details. I'd like any help figuring out what caused the leaf damage, and why she is droopy at night. The pics in this post are a night picture and day picture, and you can see the difference. Also, in these pics you'll notice some sort of white deposit on the clay. This is different than the mold I mentioned in earlier posts. This is like a hard mineral deposit, but I am using distilled water, so I just think some minerals are being extracted from the clay, and not a big deal. I'm using two CFLs and I rotate the pot several times a day since I kind of want her growing upright.

Any comments, advice or questions would be greatly appreciated... this is my first time. I know I wrote a lot, but I'm looking for as much good feedback as possible, and figured all this info would tell the whole story. Thanks.

KILR0Y · #13 05-21-2008, 08:19 AM

Any ideas about these questions?

1) Is it normal to be so droopy at night?
2) Any idea as to the damage?
3) Comments on lighting or other things that i'm doing or should change?

Hoping I didn't include too much info, or maybe I should have posted this in another forum?

In general, how is she looking for 30 days of growth

OB Cron Kenobi · #14 05-21-2008, 08:39 AM

wow, the 12/12 is way to early, your getting to excited, go buy a bag and relax your not getting any bud within 2 months period no matter how much you go spend right now. Not possible! with that granted, lets talk about the 12/12- too early- you maybe able to revert back to 18/6 but you should have started at 24 and worked down in increments as the lamps need to be raised for their height. you shouldnt put your first load into veg until its 16-20 inches tall- I am currently shooting for 18, then you can clip a clone and go to flower. Your second problem is lighting- you need to give these plants some TLC- they need a room in the house, build them a small cabinent- your CFLS are low heat- and if you build it right you can keep all light out and flower.

At this point tho- it may be hard to revert your 12/12 and the droopyness... crazy furtz in your soil- you'd be better taking dirt from outside. try a mix or pearlite and sterilized soil- like 20% will make drainage alot better- that might help the droopyness

But that next seed lined up, work on her- and give her the TLC she needs

KILR0Y · #15 05-22-2008, 08:22 AM

Thanks for the input OB. If I could buy a bag, this first grow probably would not have gone so far. I know the bud won't come fast, but as I said just looking for any bud on my first grow. When you say my problem is lighting, you think it is a big deal that she is not completely blocked out from light at night? The most light she gets during the night is 50 watts from an incandescent about 20 ft away, and no actual direct light from that bulb. My intuition tells me that this is not any brighter than a full moon on a clear night.

But, I guess I won't take my chances and put her in complete dark at night, and I'm going to add another 23 watt CFL. The plant should be receiving at least 4,000 lumens which should be enough for one plant from what I read. I also put her on the porch for direct sunlight for about an hour a day when I remember. too much shade on my porch so can't leave her there all the time.

As for the 12/12 grow, I understand that a veg cycle will help her grow bigger faster, and produce more bud sites, but people have been growing with a 12/12 cycle from seed with great results. This thread is why I decided to switch:

Grow Journal #5-12/12 from seed to finish, 400W Grow Cabinet, Hydro & Soil

I want a small plant my first time. not worried about yield, just health and a simple diet of whatever is in the potting soil and distilled water. I may add water from a compost tea later on, but I'd prefer to keep it really simple.

Please keep the advice coming. I'm going to listen to that perlite advice as the soil does seem slow to drain. Thank OB, any input is appreciated, especially since I'm not following the book on this one.

OB Cron Kenobi · #16 05-22-2008, 02:22 PM

It could be the soil on the leaf burn, good ohh backyard dirt... Keep the pics coming, I am interested, best of luck, for the 12/12 after reading that, its a unique technique- perfect for your situation though, and seeing that I stumbled into PC grows, have you seen those? ridiculous, plants in a computer? with a big yeild! so i am sure you can do it, TLC will grow THC. Keep it posted and pictures! I am working on a photo for my opp right now

KILR0Y · #17 06-13-2008, 12:51 PM

She turned out to be a girl and started flowering at week 5, and I am now at week 7, If you didn't read the whole thread, I'm running 3 CFLs with a total of 72 watts for ONE plant. Running into some new problems though and could use some advice.

The edges of the leaves have been curling under. See attached pic. I am not overwatering, that is definite, as when I transplanted I mixed in about 25% perlite with Scotts soil and I water every 4-5 days or less often when the top 2 inches are completely dry. I think the pH might be off, but I don't want to spring for an expensive pH tester.

Other details: There is over 2 gallons of soil in the pot, and the plant is 18 inches tall, and I hope has stopped growing. Transplanted 10 days ago.

This bagseed looks like an indica dominant strain to me. I'm proud my first grow is going so well, although I was wondering if the buds looks small for 2 weeks. Does she look healthy? Why are the leaves curling down (but not drooping like when you overwater)? I don't feed nutes, except for some compost tea that I tested on a seedling first to make sure it wouldn't freak. Any questions or comments will be greatly appreciated.

OB Cron Kenobi · #18 06-13-2008, 01:00 PM

those buds look pretty big for 2 weeks, the end of 2 weeks, or the beginning, you should check my journal i am mid second week- and my flowers are just that still flowers, those are definitely more budular... nice

As far as the leaves, try misting them with a drop of superthrive mixed in, and it might help- i did that an my leaves love it... other than that... great

KILR0Y · #19 06-13-2008, 03:11 PM

Thanks, I was exactly at 14 days in those pics. I might mist, there is a small chance that this is heat stress, but not likely. Rarely over 90 except when I bring her outside for a couple of hours for sunlight. Maybe the change in environment that is causing this?

Spittn4cash · #20 06-13-2008, 06:47 PM

nice lookin plant, I definitely think you could pull off 1/4-1/2 of some nice dank shit.
my diagnosis on the plant is its either overwatered or rootbound

edit: thats based on the moist soil in the pic, the bottom leaves yellowing, and droopy/curled leaves.