First Grow 8 Plants NEED HELP PLEASEE

F1rstT1mer · #1 03-18-2008, 08:01 AM

Hey so I'm a first time grower, and i'll give you guys the basics. I was growing inside for the first few weeks but the last couple days i've had them outside. They haven't grown as fast as they probably should and now some are developing problems. I have 3 Afghani and 5 medi bud. I've noticed overall slow growth on the 5 Medi. but the real problem is that two of the medis, their leaves get black spots first(PIC), then leaf turns brown (PIC), and on the afghani one of the leaves is curling downward significantly(PIC) i'll make the specs real easy to read. ANY OTHER ADVICE WOULD BE APPRECIATED
-they're on day 39 from germ.
-Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil
-Watering when needed (moisture meter gets to 1ish)
-All water is pHed to 6.8 (I've been using water that was softened/filtered, but last watering was with bottled water)
-Germed with soaking/towel
-Just transplanted into 1.25 gal. pots
-temp is between 70-80, for first few weeks temps were good, then for 2 days (after adding new light) it reached a max of 95oF
-Nutrients are given about once/wk.
-Flora Nova Grow, superthrive, bcuzz root, bcuzz growth
-Humidity is 50%
-Soil pH about 6.7
-Container wise - Germed,Grodan cubes(soaked in olivias cloning solution),6" net pots (idk the guy at the hydro store said they let the roots breathe better?), then into 1.25 gal pots

****While idk whats causing the blackening/browning, i believe the curling downwards might be K deficiency because of the softened water (Na build up), but for the first 2 weeks they were fed tap water

F1rstT1mer · #2 03-18-2008, 08:22 AM

Since i like taking pics of them and they obv. help people here are some more

DMGIX · #3 03-18-2008, 08:24 AM

Whats the outside Max and Min Temp do ya know? If the Temp goes below 50-55f the plant goes into shock...... I dont know what the water is like around your end but i just tend to is fill up a container with tap water and leave it for a while, either that or boil it and let it cool.

Im not sure what the black browning spots are...the leave curling down could be either over or under watering...i would say leave it a day or so and if they dont get any better its under-watering but if they do get better your pob over waterin...its alot better to under water than over do it.

Another advice is to use 1 gallon pots per foot of growth

what lights you got on them?

DMGIX · #4 03-18-2008, 08:28 AM

jsut looked at your pics again....Im not sre what the chars of your strain are but the stems/node look pretty dark...purple maybe...? Maybe ths is natural to the strain but from what ive read it could be a build up of nitrogen? Just a guess tho, not certain

F1rstT1mer · #5 03-18-2008, 08:33 AM

I'm real close to the equator so the temps dont drop below 70 at all, i was using about 300 watts cfl 6500k , 2X2 storage rack with no shelves and wrapped in mylar with a big extracting fan on top, and oscilating fan in the room with frsh air coming in from 1inch gap under door

DMGIX · #6 03-18-2008, 08:34 AM

hey sorry for multi-posting..a darkenin of the leave is usually a Phosphorus def. I dont know the nutes your using but i just use MiricleGro and i have a sexy plant...

smartfood · #7 03-18-2008, 09:14 AM

I've heard curling tips are oxygen deficiency, as in the roots can't breathe if the soil wasn't aerated properly. I've heard of people using hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) when they water to help get some extra Oxygen to the roots. If they discoloration is primarily on the bottom leaves, I'd guess it's some sort of deficiency. What strength are you running your veg nutes at and how often are you feeding?

F1rstT1mer · #8 03-18-2008, 09:45 AM

I'm feeding whenever to be honest, I'm too hesitant to feed on a regular basis because i read FFOF is very hot, but in the past like 5 weeks ive fed them probably 3 times (w/superthrive,floranova,bcuzz root & growth). i've had some problems before, the plants were all looking alright at the beg. of last week and then since it had been about 2 weeks(bout 4 weeks old at the time) i fed them the flora nova upping that dosage to the recommended dosage for orchids idk i think 1/2 tbs? along with the other stuff. how often should i be feeding them? (taking into account the FFOF)

F1rstT1mer · #9 03-18-2008, 09:51 AM

Sorry i never finished that post (ADD+Devil's Grass.. bad combo), so last week i fed them and they drooped terribly so i transplanted them after about 3 days (they perked up a little) into the one galloners, stuck them outside and they look 100% better than before. And about a week before that i flushed them (with the softened water) so idk if the amount of salts built up in the soil is driving them nuts? im high (on life) right now with a 10MP DSLR w/52mm MACRO lens so im going to go take some close ups of the tips and stuff. BTW i appreciate everyone helping i've never actually posted just browsed about 21384023927502 articles prior to growing (and i still effed up)

DMGIX · #10 03-18-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by F1rstT1mer

. BTW i appreciate everyone helping i've never actually posted just browsed about 21384023927502 articles prior to growing (and i still effed up)

Hey thats cool, its your 1st grow, saying that im on my 1st too, maybe im just lucky or im a natural lol. i just started on a whim tbh with alot trial and error, well not that much error, just building a grow area and learning as i go along....take a look at my grow...http://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/...:joint::peace: