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    Default Can anyone tell me what these spots are, two plants have different problems.

    Plant one:
    This plant has like white dust like spots on the tips of the leaves, I do not think it is Powdery Mildew because it is not spreading to the inner leaves it is only on a few leaves, I am guessing bugs?
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    Plant 2:
    I think this is either Nute burn or leaf miners, I already know 2 of the plants has spider mites, and I have been spraying them with azatrol, I am going to spray again in 5 more days.
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    So my question is what are these? What is going on?

    Also when i am using azatrol should I use Coco-wet so the leaves absorb the organic poison so the bugs will not want to come back (I will make sure to flush for two weeks before harvest, but seeing these plants are still in veg, is it bad)

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    first one is nothing its just residue of a sort....second one looks like bugs to me...could be burn but looks more like bugs!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beginner.legal.growop View Post
    Plant one:
    This plant has like white dust like spots on the tips of the leaves, I do not think it is Powdery Mildew because it is not spreading to the inner leaves it is only on a few leaves, I am guessing bugs?
    IMAG0051.jpgIMAG0052.jpgIMAG0053.jpgwhitespots1.jpg

    Plant 2:
    I think this is either Nute burn or leaf miners, I already know 2 of the plants has spider mites, and I have been spraying them with azatrol, I am going to spray again in 5 more days.
    IMAG0055.jpgIMAG0056.jpg
    IMAG0057.jpgIMAG0058.jpg


    So my question is what are these? What is going on?

    Also when i am using azatrol should I use Coco-wet so the leaves absorb the organic poison so the bugs will not want to come back (I will make sure to flush for two weeks before harvest, but seeing these plants are still in veg, is it bad)
    Leaf miners indoors is very unusual. I find that azadirachtin can cause leaf burn if use in higher amounts and the plants are exposed to an extreme light source (sun/HID lamp) before the spray evaporates. I Can't tell from the photos, but if the spots are silvery with little specs of blackness around them, then they are thrips. Thrips are fast winged (adult) cutting insects that are present above and below leaves. They scatter when the plants are held and they are a couple of milimeters long and white/green/clear. They pupate in the soil and can be taken care of with cedar oil in the soil. Also, of note is azadirachtin doesn't kill spider mites in my opinion. I have tried many things to get rid of them and azamax/trol doesn't work. It somewhat disrupts their population for a week, but can't be really used late into flower as spraying maturing buds may cause rot. The best way is to get a state pesticide applicators license and use a controlled pesticide that actually works. Or really make sure you have the population knocked down before you go into flower. Spider mites can take over a garden in under 2 weeks and it is not pretty.

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    sneak up on the plants and check under the leaf lol
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    lol idc if we r currently going at it in another thread.. thats funny shit ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by medicalmary View Post
    Leaf miners indoors is very unusual. I find that azadirachtin can cause leaf burn if use in higher amounts and the plants are exposed to an extreme light source (sun/HID lamp) before the spray evaporates. I Can't tell from the photos, but if the spots are silvery with little specs of blackness around them, then they are thrips. Thrips are fast winged (adult) cutting insects that are present above and below leaves. They scatter when the plants are held and they are a couple of milimeters long and white/green/clear. They pupate in the soil and can be taken care of with cedar oil in the soil. Also, of note is azadirachtin doesn't kill spider mites in my opinion. I have tried many things to get rid of them and azamax/trol doesn't work. It somewhat disrupts their population for a week, but can't be really used late into flower as spraying maturing buds may cause rot. The best way is to get a state pesticide applicators license and use a controlled pesticide that actually works. Or really make sure you have the population knocked down before you go into flower. Spider mites can take over a garden in under 2 weeks and it is not pretty.

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    But did you ever try using Azatrol with COCO-Wet? Basically the coco-wet allowsthe plants wax like leaves to absorb whatever you are spraying on it, whether that is nutrients or insecticide.

    SO basically if any insect takes a bite out of your plant, it is basically like they have taken a bite of some organic poison...

    I have read countless threads where people have said azatrol is not effective unless you; #1 spray every 6 days for a month, or #2 mix it with a wetting agent and spray onces every 6 days twice...

    Please let me know if you have heard this.

    I have also lately been seeing black gnats that like to hide out in the new growth of my plants, I am guessing these are fungus gnats... My backyard is full of crazy shit because of my neighbors dirty ass diseased trees that she just cut, which all the leaves came into my back yard and now all of these wierd ass creatures are on my plants. Including a almost microscopic striped grasshopper that I could only see with my 30x jewelers loop... I killed it... but after finding NOTHING about it online, I believe I may have just killed an unknown creature!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tranceus View Post
    sneak up on the plants and check under the leaf lol
    I will be sure to go all steve erwin on my plants!

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    "Alright mate, we have just caughten the legendary blue winged marijuana thrip, indigenous to California's immense valleys!"
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    lmao your good in my hood friend. and that comment is the result of too much P.C poison lol
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    lol idc if we r currently going at it in another thread.. thats funny shit ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by beginner.legal.growop View Post
    But did you ever try using Azatrol with COCO-Wet? Basically the coco-wet allowsthe plants wax like leaves to absorb whatever you are spraying on it, whether that is nutrients or insecticide.

    SO basically if any insect takes a bite out of your plant, it is basically like they have taken a bite of some organic poison...

    I have read countless threads where people have said azatrol is not effective unless you; #1 spray every 6 days for a month, or #2 mix it with a wetting agent and spray onces every 6 days twice...

    Please let me know if you have heard this.

    I have also lately been seeing black gnats that like to hide out in the new growth of my plants, I am guessing these are fungus gnats... My backyard is full of crazy shit because of my neighbors dirty ass diseased trees that she just cut, which all the leaves came into my back yard and now all of these wierd ass creatures are on my plants. Including a almost microscopic striped grasshopper that I could only see with my 30x jewelers loop... I killed it... but after finding NOTHING about it online, I believe I may have just killed an unknown creature!!!!!



    I will be sure to go all steve erwin on my plants!

    "Wait fooorrr itttt, wait foooooorrr iiiiittttt, GOOOOO!!!"
    "Alright mate, we have just caughten the legendary blue winged marijuana thrip, indigenous to California's immense valleys!"
    "HOLY, WATCH-OUT MATE!!! SUPER MITES!!!"
    A wetting agent is a given. Sorry, I thought you were using one. The only way to really effectively cover a plant with insecticide is with a wetting agent. you don't necessary have to go out an buy one though. Dish soap is pretty much the same as any wetting agent. A dish soap with a slightly high pH will work just as well. however, a wetting agent will run you like $5 a bottle so just go out and get one that will not kill micros for your soils sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medicalmary View Post
    A wetting agent is a given. Sorry, I thought you were using one. The only way to really effectively cover a plant with insecticide is with a wetting agent. you don't necessary have to go out an buy one though. Dish soap is pretty much the same as any wetting agent. A dish soap with a slightly high pH will work just as well. however, a wetting agent will run you like $5 a bottle so just go out and get one that will not kill micros for your soils sake.

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    I already have a 8 oz bottle of coco-wet. I just sprayed it again for the second time. I think they are coming from the tree next door so I am not sure if it is even gonna matter... but we will see.

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    Fifth photo I see spider mite damage. 6th - 8th i see nute or insecticide burn.

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