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    yea maybe later .. still learning and did`t want to many plants or monsters as I do have limited space and do have em in my living room (you know smell and stuff .. sumthing I realy have to look in to in flowering I guess)

    but I actualy do have a HPS (600W 2100K/92K Lumen I belive)

    found a used one with brand new bulp and hangers and all for like 120$ but I will safe that for flowering .. maybe late flowering ? like last 4 weeks or so and then get a few more 2700K T5 bulbs to start flowering with (mostly to save electricity dunno yet ?)

    here is my set up so fare

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    but once I have learnd more and know how big my plants get and how much room I actualy have and how much heat get a isue (summer comming) and all that I might go with 4 plants ..

    have been thinking of going with 4 autos in a DWG tube under the T5 (would also solv the "all dark at night time" problem I might get with them girls I have now .. might have to use my badroom for dark time )

    it would solv many thing I think .. tho I'm sure others will occur .. but might suit me and my grow room better ? lets see I will take it slow and do it right ..

    Ooh yea and plants allready look better to day (foile sprayd them morning and evening yesterday with 1/2 strenges nuts)

    will post some pictures later have to runn now ..
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    You're definitely gonna want to use that 600w HPS for flowering. T5s are good for veg, but that light won't reach the flowers unless you grow a SOG.

    You can build your own tent with black and white poly and 2x2s. It's really easy and it allows you to design where and how you want to. From size to openings. I can post some pics of mine if you want to see them, but you can just google DIY grow tents for ideas if you want.

    This is your first grow? Didn't realize, I think you're doing better than I did with my first plants. Lol.

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    lol yea .. fist grow .. atlest indoor .. done a few with a friend like 10-12 years ago ..

    but a "normal" hamp strain and not so advanges as indoor growing .. more like .. make seed spur .. drop it in the ground and water and wait

    did still grow some nice "trees" like 6-7 feet that gave like ½ a pound each .. but I bet THC level was like 5-10% and canabinol like 0,sumthing as you sumtimes had to feel and search for the effect .. tho ther was a effect .. you did`t have a need to smoke

    and the oil made from em was nice mix a few drops in the nicer tops and voila

    about grow tent .. sure I would like one .. but ya know .. money and time .. mostly money tho

    but also since I got the light .. ordered the seeds and was on the way while I was hanging rails and covers up in the corner of my living room

    so agin maybe for next grow .. have to take it a step at the time ..

    also .. relized that you have to keep it simple .. need to get the hang of it and then move on and add more stuff and learn on the way ..

    cant rush in to this and add a lot of stuff Im not 100% sure how to use correctly ..

    but my room is`t that bad actualy .. have a big living room L-shaped and like 120 sq. feet

    use the fare corner (had to move a bookshell to the hall but its ok)

    have rails in the sealing .. used 2 tick bed linnen .. one black one with as cover ..with inside and black out side just like a inch open (to let air out)

    the plants is on a desk (4x2½ feet) room is like 5x3 .. under the table I have a intake with a tower fan puling air in ..
    cover ends like a foot before the floor but lower then the table ..


    building is new .. have nice air cirkulation .. I have no problem keeping temps. (72-78F) and humidity like 40-45%

    only real problem is going to be smell and light .. (might need to use my bathroom to flower in )

    therfor Im thinking of autos for next grow so the littel light they might get in the fist 2 hours or so in the morning from out side wont hurt em ..

    about the smell .. well been looking at a Bionaire BAP242S Hepa air cleaner .. cost like 100$ and can cover 30 Sq. feet .. might throw one in there and see it that is enough to live with

    lets see ..

    also why I only have 2 plants .. need to see .. wouldnt like to start 20 plants to discover that smell, heat and humidity would be sumthing I couldnt controle ..

    less is more I guess ..

    but realy considering a DWG grow next time .. Im sure I could fit 4 plants in under my 5 foot T5HO fixture and the soil would also be historie tho Im sure keeping PH and nutriens is atlest as hard in hydro ?

    but the idea of auto flowering and dwg sounds nice to me fast growing small plants of high quality (if you can controle it Im sure)
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    Ooh btw

    please post them pics .. always nice to get some inspiration ..


    only problem and why I did`t go for a closed room was ventilation ..

    cant realy make one with out cutting in the windows and have tubes running my sealing (dont like that idea .. atall)

    or just makeing it vent. out in my room .. no real idea ther beside light proof maybe but then heat and air might be a problem ?

    I could of course add a filter so it wouldnt smell .. thats might be a idea .. wont be hard to make the room I have now 99,9% light tight ..

    so then I jsut need to buy a good vent and filter ..

    any idea`s ?

    and do you think temperature will become a problem with that 600w hps ?

    intake air would be like 72-78F

    with the cover a bit open and my big table fan pointet at it I could keep it on about 82-85F 2 feet away ..

    just affraid that I cant keep it if I seal it up ?
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    and some pictures


    the plant I repot and gave some nutriens look so much better to day ..

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    did also go shopping a littel to day (in our walmart so to speak)

    couldn't stop myself after I saw the result ...

    so I found 2 big pots .. on sale .. one broken (so half price .. lucky me as allways its seems .. must be the green elf or sumthing )

    26L and 40 ccm wide (thats like 7 gallon and 16 inches wide) that MUST be enough to the end ..

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    and the one that was broke I used to repot the other one right away

    roots sticking to the sides of the old pot and allmost as crowed as the small was .. so agin just in time it seems ..

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    so now they boath have room and I got the other 26L for the "small" one I can repot like 1-2 weeks before flowering ..

    also here is a pic of my room .. tell me what you think

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    got a tower fan laying down under the table blowing air in under the table .. it pass up behind the table and wall so air flow is pretty good ..
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    Wow man, those plants look great! I was about to tell you that starting a DWG doing hydro would probably complicate things more for you since you said you were basically trying to keep it simple, but I think that you'd have things under control either way.

    Actually, the reason I suggested a DIY tent is because you can build a nice little 6x3 or 5x3 for less than 30 bucks, and you could through that light mover in there and fit either 6 bushy plants in there and get 4-8 oz per plant or 15 and keep each plant in a sq ft. I prefer keeping them in an 18" space because it makes watering easier and keeps my count down.

    Didn't you say up there somewhere you were vegging in a 5x3 area of your living room? You could just poly off the opening it'd be super efficient. I'll take a pic of the 4.5x4.5 tent I just did where I only had to tent one opening and post it tonight, but I've got these for now.
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    Sorry I don't have any more "instructional" looking pics lol, they were all phone pics I took real quick. I'm building a 3.5x4 tent in a corner of my veg room sometime this week, so I'll make a DIY post and I'll let you know when it's up.

    And if you think you wanna build one I can price it out for you tonight when I get back on here. You could have a ventilated tent with fans and oder control for less than $200 for sure.

    But you seem like a pretty "everything in it's right place" kinda guy and that's how I am, so you'll probably feel like a setup like this would make things easier and more efficient for you.

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    wow cool plants

    and nice room by the look at it .. cant wait to see more and what you come up with .. keep em postet


    and yea my plants is`t looking bad at all .. specialy not to day

    tell me what you think please .. still need sumthing ?


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    and yea .. I am a "right place" guy .. pretty logic thinking person (boath good and bad sumtimes)

    I work as a stanless steel smet .. makeing machines for the medical and textile industrie ..

    so could easily put sumthing together .. have been thinking of makeing a steel frame (1x1 inch stanless steel) and put up some wood on the side and top .. and make holes for vent. aso


    can also fist perforatet stanless steel plate in the bottom to set the plants on and for a air intake (so the air pulld in comes up all over around the plants .. if that make any sense ?)

    but you know .. Rome was`t build in one day ..
    and even tho this is funn and a nice hobby .. it do allready take up a lot of time .. have other stuff I also need to do ya know

    so over time I will upgrade .. now I atlest have nice lights some vent... pots (of right size) and more experiance ..

    just need to take it slow and add stuff as I get use to growing .. but yea a light/smell seald room is on top of my list now ..

    I guess on my 3th grow it could be up running ..

    reason why DWG sounds good to me is mostly that I want to grow autos as they are fast and suit my set up/me (T5 .. small room .. night light wont be a problem and I can just keep em on 20/4 or 18/6 all the time if I want aso. seems more easy and I bet .. if you do it right you could get as much out of it as a nub grower or just someone who don't have optimal conditions and you harverst more often .. DWG will make it more optimal and I wont have to "fight" with dirt aso.)
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    btw

    Im beginning to look at it this way ..

    find out your needs and what you have to work with and then try to match it with a grow that will cover it ..

    I dont have a spare room (or I would problerbly have got one more 600W HPS and made a all out stavia grow with like 8-12 big plants with a veg and a flower room and a big filter/vent aso. .. could most likely make enough for boath myself and a few cloose friends and let them pay for the room )

    and I don't have limited money (or I would most likely just buy my smoke even tho it is a funn hoppy to grow)

    so I have to do with like 3 sq meters (9 sq feet or so) and I have to do it a littel at the time .. might not be that bad as I can imagen you could make some bad buys if you do em as a nub ..

    my needs as I dont sell or want to .. is just to cover my own needs ...

    so I safe some money and dont have to put em in the rocker (HA/bandidos) pockets ..
    and so I dont have to go trough the trouble of getting it and buying it and all what follows with that ..

    and to have a funn hoppy of course ..



    reccon I would like to grow 2 grams a day (if you could put it that way ?) 700 grams a year ..

    that would cover my need plenty with enough to go around .. for weekends and friends aso.

    so if I could haverst evry 12 week or so with autos I would just have to haverst like 160 grams (1/3 pound) so thats like 40 grams per plant if I have 4

    think that is possible with autos in DWG or any grow in my kind of room size ?
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    I average about 350-400 grams a meter...so I could do that 5 times a year in my flowering room.

    So to be honest, if you only need 2lbs or less a year for personal...you can grow however the fuck you want lmao.

    And the main reason for a tent is for more light reflectivity for better yields and to better control pest and oder, but if you don't need to grow much, that's not a priority for you either. So now I think I'm following what you're saying.

    I'd say they can still probably take a little more N, unless it's just the flash from your camera making it look a little lighter green at the new growth, they still look great though. How tall are they now? They look at least 10-12" right? You're going to want to flip them to 12/12 by the weekend probably if you don't want them to be bigger than 2', and even at 2' you'll probably want to run that 600w HPS or you'll honestly just be upset with your yield..even if you're not real concerned with yield.

    A few things I'm confused about though if you're just growing for your personal....why not grow organic? It's not really any more expensive than hydroponic nutes and the smoke is better for you.

    Also, you'd be able to juice or eat your own fan leaves instead. Not sure if you've ever seen or read anything, but it appears that it prevents just about if not EVERY type of cancer from ever invading your body, prevents the onset of diabetes, prevents Alzheimer's, and promotes healthy brain function. I've been less anxious since I started juicing my fan leaves as well. General Hydroponics has a good organic line if you ever decide to give it a try, and they have a little trial size kinda setup with their whole line-up for cheap that'd prolly get you through a whole cycle. Done preaching, sorry lol.

    Oh, and have you used any kinds of concentrates like ice-water hash, hash oil, tinctures, butters...you'll want to plan for more than 2 grams a day if you wanna benefit from growing your own as much as possible. I mean, I get it, some people just like to smoke and don't care about all the other stuff lol, but it just seems to me like if you're already going through all the trouble to grow it yourself, why not reap all the benefits right?

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    Oh, and one more thing....if it's just your personal smoke don't you want to be able to grow 2 or 3 strains you actually like instead of autoflowers? Autoflowers kinda suck IMO, and it seems like mostly newbs or people who just juice leaves grow them. They are literally ragweed. And the plants you've been posting look better than most of the pics I see from so-called professional growers. In fact, I'm over here giving you advice and I've got some purpling in my stems right now on my veg plants lol. So I wouldn't recommend autoflowers for you, not if you really want to be high. But like I said, you could literally just flower clones as soon as they are rooted under your CFL. And if you do as good a job on your flowering plants as you are on your veg plants, your buds are probably going to get you higher than you've ever been.

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