Plants 3 Weeks veg - Wispy New Growth - Stunted , help plz ...........

Clonex

Clonex

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Hi ,:?:3x G-Bomb clones , been in veg for 3 weeks , other plants in the same medium , same nutrient feed are fine ,Plants are in cellmax cubes and hydroleca clay pebs , all have had 2 feeds ,1/2 strength vitalink grow , they are stunted and new growth is wispy ,i have given all 3 a 20ltr flush and hit them with mild strength Rhizotonic ,Dont know what else ,Serious suggestions only please , my guess is over N and locked , but i'm seeing no responce,pics are 3 days old , new 1's added later ,Thanks in advance,Clonex :?:

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FFS! stressed or what !!
 
*BUDS

*BUDS

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I would say a root system problem but if others are fine ill say its poor clones from a crap mother.
 
CanBud

CanBud

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I had one turn in to the same looking beast from MG soil, it was acting up so I flushed it and it turned into that same looking plant. Couple days went by and a bunch of the leaves dried up and some were wilted but fine otherwise. In my case I just clipped the shitty stuff of and let it do its thing and now its looking very healthy again but it didn't grow any taller, although its now producing some normal lookin buds because it happened during my flip. Wait a day or two and see what happens would be my advice...good luck!
 
thc&me

thc&me

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The brown blotches on the leaves are often associated with a magnesium deficiency. However, the wispy new growth and discoloration suggest bigger problems. Is there adequate aeration in your soil for the roots to breathe? Perhaps the roots are kept too moist or a PH problem in your soil is locking out nutrients.
 
Clonex

Clonex

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CanBud said:
I had one turn in to the same looking beast from MG soil, it was acting up so I flushed it and it turned into that same looking plant. Couple days went by and a bunch of the leaves dried up and some were wilted but fine otherwise. In my case I just clipped the shitty stuff of and let it do its thing and now its looking very healthy again but it didn't grow any taller, although its now producing some normal lookin buds because it happened during my flip. Wait a day or two and see what happens would be my advice...good luck!
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Thanks , you mentioning MG , reminds me that the first feed was 1/2 MG nutes as i was out of Vitalink , maybe this is the issue , god knows , guess i will wait more days to see if the flush has any effect ?
 
Clonex

Clonex

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thc&me said:
The brown blotches on the leaves are often associated with a magnesium deficiency. However, the wispy new growth and discoloration suggest bigger problems. Is there adequate aeration in your soil for the roots to breathe? Perhaps the roots are kept too moist or a PH problem in your soil is locking out nutrients.
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Im using cellmax rockwool and hydroleca , i dont think a more airy medium is available ??? they look locked and stunted to me though.
 
CanBud

CanBud

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Clonex said:
Thanks , you mentioning MG , reminds me that the first feed was 1/2 MG nutes as i was out of Vitalink , maybe this is the issue , god knows , guess i will wait more days to see if the flush has any effect ?
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Did it look better before the flush or did the problem magnify after?
 
CanBud

CanBud

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Clonex said:
I would say it stabilized and stopped growing altogether , but not worse , pots are still very heavy , was 3 days ago.
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Im guessing if you just let it ride it'll iron itself out to the point where you can help it out after the soil dries. Mine didn't recover for a couple weeks, I thought about slitting it's throat but decided to use it as a learning tool instead...hopefully yours will pull through and I think it will.
 
Clonex

Clonex

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I hope so , i don't have the time or space for stunted plants sitting in 11ltr pots , when they are already 2 weeks behind the group they are meant to be with , and they are taking up space i need for the next group that are coming out of propagation and will need to go in ,my options are wait see what happens , kill them off or put them straight in bloom , im hoping Jack Herer or Gastanker Or Bricktop will see this thread and help me .......
 
maps84

maps84

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If you have more clones then kill em all right now!... however examine the plants to find out what was the culprit and how to avoid it in the future. btw don't wait for nobody to fix your shit.
 
Clonex

Clonex

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maps84 said:
If you have more clones then kill em all right now!... however examine the plants to find out what was the culprit and how to avoid it in the future. btw don't wait for nobody to fix your shit.
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You are missing the point , the group in bloom are 3 short now , my new clones will be miles behind , i dont like wasting space and energy in my bloom room ? , i have studied the roots best i can , its easy as im in rockwool and they are white and thick,
BTW the 3 i mentioned have vast knowledge , this is a forum generated to help people so that blurt was not needed.
 
delvite

delvite

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Clonex said:
I hope so , i don't have the time or space for stunted plants sitting in 11ltr pots , when they are already 2 weeks behind the group they are meant to be with , and they are taking up space i need for the next group that are coming out of propagation and will need to go in ,my options are wait see what happens , kill them off or put them straight in bloom , im hoping Jack Herer or Gastanker Or Bricktop will see this thread and help me .......
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hi, sounds like you,ve headed in the right direction flushed and waiting a couple of days should tell but if they are lagging to much id pull whats the E.C disolved carbon of your feed :)..........
Recommended PPM, EC and pH Values for Various Feeding Programs


Vegetative for Hydroponics

Growth Stage
0.5 Conversion (ppm)
0.7 Conversion (ppm)
EC ( µS)
pH

Clones/Seedlings
220-350
300-500
430-700
5.5-6.2

Week 1-2
400-550
600-800
850-1100
5.5-6.2

Week 3-4
550-700
800-1000
1100-1450
5.5-6.2

Flowering for Hydroponics

Week 1-2
700-850
1000-1200
1450-1700
5.5-6.2

Week 3-4
700-1000
1000-1400
1450-2000
5.5-6.2

Week 5-6
850-1000
1200-1400
1700-2000
5.5-6.2

Week 7-8
350-700
500-1000
700-1450
5.5-6.2






Vegetative for Soil

Growth Stage
0.5 Conversion (ppm)
0.7 Conversion (ppm)
EC ( µS)
pH

Clones/Seedlings
220-350
300-500
430-700
6.2-6.8

Week 1-2
400-550
600-800
850-1100
6.8-6.2

Week 3-4
550-700
800-1000
1100-1450
6.2-6.8

Flowering for Soil

Week 1-2
700-850
1000-1200
1450-1700
6.2-6.8

Week 3-4
700-1000
1000-1400
1450-2000
6.2-6.8

Week 5-6
850-1000
1200-1400
1700-2000
6.2-6.8

Week 7-8
350-700
500-1000
700-1450
6.2-6.8


Please note that most soil growers only feed every second watering to avoid salt buildup​
 
Jack Harer

Jack Harer

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Looks like a minor Mg prob, along with nitrogen toxicity. COULD also be wet roots. Is there good drainage?
 
maps84

maps84

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Clonex said:
You are missing the point , the group in bloom are 3 short now , my new clones will be miles behind , i dont like wasting space and energy in my bloom room ? , i have studied the roots best i can , its easy as im in rockwool and they are white and thick,
BTW the 3 i mentioned have vast knowledge , this is a forum generated to help people so that blurt was not needed.
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You wont waste space nor energy just run 2 cycles instead of one and get an extra delayed harvest. Wasting energy and time would be bring back those clones to live given most of the apical stems are gone. Point taken about the blurt, not needed. I should have made my point clearer. Plants in that state for a perpetual grower are a no go. That's from my point of view, I'm sorry I missed yours.
 
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