OK... I need MUCH help (mag or iron deficiency?) *DINAFEM WHITE WIDOW* PLEASE!!!

This plant was transplanted about a week or two ago, it grew out of its sprouting cup and never had any deficiencies!

Anyways, she's starting to yellow from the bottom up... I can't seem to get the PH runoff correct either, even though the acidic peat moss based soil is buffered with dolomite lime AND I've hit it with hydrated lime. Runoff still in the mid 5's!! Wtf! At first it was OK, when I hit it with ST/H20 and then just watered for a week. Once I added nutes, everything PH wise just went south! And YES, I CHECK MY FERTILIZERS PH EVERYTIME BEFORE ADDING TO THE PLANT. I'VE EVEN BEEN TRYING TO GET IT UP BY USING SLIGHTLY ALKALINE H20/FERTS!

So here I am... The other day on the grow journal of this plant I said I was going to cut the bottom two FIRST set of leaves off and see if it spread throughout the plant. I wanted to make sure that everything was still going good because the other day ONLY the first leaf set was mildly yellow (will show picture) and now that I cut them off, it spread. Something's not right, its def not nute burn as I don't "nute" them often (every other other Monday it gets half strength ff grow big and the Mondays in between it gets full strength FF big bloom). It will obviously get full doses of grow big once it gets bigger and tiger bloom once it starts flowering (IF IT makes it!)....

I'm F'n terrified right now! I feel like she can be saved but how?! Is this an N deficiency?! I dont think so... IMO. But what I DID think was happening was the dolomite lime, hydrated lime and nutes had built up a HUGE salt buildup and locked things out! So last night I gave her a GOOD flushing and figured I'd start from scratch (in a sense). I woke up to THIS! F ME!! The wetness on the leaves is a foilar spray of big bloom (bat guano and earthworm castings)....

Where do I go from here fellas?? The soil is 50% organic peat moss, 40% organic perlite and 10% organic seed starting mix. Buffered by dolomite lime (the granulated kind - but was crushed with a hammer into a powder using the measurement instructions from the bag and I left a couple BB sized pieces too, to break down over time - thinking AHEAD! LOL)..... It also contains about an eggs worth of dried out egg shells for calcium - mostly used as a top dressing! I'm ALL organic, or try to be! I use magnesium sulphate and egg shells for my homemade Cal/Mag!

PLEASE, ANY HELP! WHAT WOULD U DO IN THIS SITUATION AND YOUR PLANT LOOKED LIKE THIS?! THERE'S NO BROWNING AND THE VEINS STILL LOOK GOOD... I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP OR BEGIN FIXING THIS PROBLEM. LIKE I SAID, SHE WAS FLUSHED UNTIL NO MORE MILKY WATER RAN OFF!

WHAT NOW?! HERE'S BEFORE I clipped the bottom leaves yesterday morning at 4am....





And here she is now after the bottom leaf trim AND complete flush (I flushed cuz other leaves were affected after clipping the bottom first yellow leaf set that u see n the previous pics! .... Do u think I flushed out the dolomite lime?! Aaaaaahhhhhh help!










SOMEONE PLEASE POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND FROM THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE PLEASE!! I CONTRIBUTE THE BEST I CAN HERE, I JUST CAN'T FIND/FIGURE OUT THE PROBLEMO!! THIS WAS GOING TO BE MY PRIZE PLANT AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE HELL! I THINK THE FLUSH N ME CATCHING IT ON TIME SAVED IT THO! THINK IT NEEDS A BIGGER POT?! ONLY IN A 1.5 QUART POT!!

This organic mix is no good bro its acid as shit.
Get some nice soil from the garden shop, add perlite and feed with hydro nutes every watering. I would carefully transplant into the more ph balanced soil asap and dont water until its happy in the new mix as it stressed atm, its not gone yet ,leave it in that mix and it will never grow.

your only worried about the yellowing??

Get it in a nice soil and lay of ferts for a while, looks like you have more than one problem.

Try take a clone before you lose it to that soil.

and it would be tomuch not the otherway around in your case


EDIT... Peat??? WYTF?? I find peat cannabis's worste nightmare. Its terrible, Use peat free

and what would i do.....

The dude above said what I would do.
Either a organic compost or a PEAT free SOIL


EDIT AGAIN. That is one UGLY looking plant poor thing....

I grow Dinafem WW too man, it's a warrior so she can be saved!! however they like airy light soil and peat moss retains 20 times its weight in water and it's high on organic matter so it's pretty much saturated and acidic in there. I told you before you got root rot. I stick with my opinion and treatment should be what Buds suggested.

ear listen mate , you shouldnt be giving your young plants nutes just yet , repot with better soil and try shake off as much of that old soil as poss without damaging those very young roots and they will re - coupe . how old are your plants , To me looks as though they are being burnt by too much nitrogen , your roots arnt ready to take nitrogen just yet as they are still young . Your tip ends are burning and spreading down in towards the stem on the bottom leafs and the leaf will eventually turn brown and crispy but in the mean time the process has already started on the next set of leafs up .... Get some nice soil and in 2-3 weeks your plants will flourish , just lay off the nutes for a while as your new (decent soil) should have a balanced NPK to last for atleast 3 weeks and then start off on small amounts of nutes and build it up till you know much your plants like to take . What is the NPK of your nutes .

The pics do the pic no justice really, I just showed it to a fellow growing buddy and he said just replant in organic potting mix from McDonald's Nursery (what I USUALLY use If u look at my previous grows). I've figured it out, thanks anyways guys....

I just need to get some organic potting mix (NO NPK VALUE!! Used many times perfectly) tomorrow and transplant. She'll be fine, little shock won't hurt her. EVEN THE YELLOWING LEAVES HAVE HAIRS AND TRICHES ON THEM ALREADY! (CHECKED WITH THE 100X ZOOM)

She's just locked out due to the peat moss, didn't realize HOW acidic it was!! Moss is one of the MAIN ingredients in the organic mix I use! But it also has bark, perlite and other none moisture retaining ingredients. After I transplant tom, ill let u know how she turns out, thanks for the info fellas!

Im sorry tho - i disagree 190% with the fact that this plant is TOO young for the LOW AMMOUNT of ORGANIC ferts I'm using.... Far from a small rootball, looked very healthy as well, plants getting fed FF big bloom which has a NPK rating of UNDER A FULL 1 IN EVERY CATEGORY!

Anyways, thanks for the peat moss info from y'all AND my growing buddy! HERE will be the new medium ...

- 80% McDonald's Nursery Organic Potting Mix
-20% Organic Perlite (maybe 70/30)
- A DASH (aka half recommended dose for the pot size) of FF Happy Frog 5-5-5 (mixed thoroughly throughout the pot/medium)
- Granulated Dolomite Lime (once again crushed to a powder for a buffer, with a few BB/half BB size chunks for LATER buffering)

The medium will be mixed tom morning, watered a bit, put in my grow room to dry a little and then ill transplant - followed by a h20/ST watering so she'll settle in NICELY!

SHE'LL BE FINE, ITS NOT BAD YET - THE PICS MAKE IT LOOK MUCH MUCH WORSE! EVEN THE GROW BUDDY SAID SO WITH HIS OWN EYES ON THE PLANT AND PICS (HIS EXACT WORDS WERE, "DAMN DUDE, DID YOU HAVE TO PICK THE WRONG PICTURES!? ". LOL!!)

1.- Every time you use the caps I WANNA KICK YOU IN THE NUTS!
2.- You're mental
3.- Hope your plant recovers

maps84 said:

1.- Every time you use the caps I WANNA KICK YOU IN THE NUTS!
2.- You're mental
3.- Hope your plant recovers

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Lol, sounds like my girl on text ^^^ lmao! Sorry, just do it on important measures.... Well I found some leftover organic potting mix from my last grow, just transplanted.

Whoever said that the "old" soil was too compact was right because the root ball still looks the same - it couldn't get through that SATURATED shit. It still looks healthy though, I caught it on time... I broke open that rootball (gently of course) and got all those root tips and "circling roots" straightened out! Sorry I couldn't get pics, 400 buck phone, dirt, water and two hands wasn't cutting it. But here's a pic of the old soil and new soil (which btw I mixed 50-50 with perlite and the soil is SO SO SO MUCH LIGHTER!)

Out with the old STRAIGHT MOSS practically ...



In with the new, before adding perlite... Nice, light color and here's the products used to make the potting mix! *and a pic of the perlite used*







In here soil with and without flash, followed by a medium/light misting of superthrive across the soil/foliage.... Oh and a SMALL amount of happy frog was mixed in with some powdered dolomite lime (both half strength!) In with the medium! Sound/look good? Or better? We shall see....







Peaceful growing peeps!!

Dude a basic Organic soil should have a few weeks of NPK in it. So dont be feeding it with ferts. Unless your Organic SOIL feeding. If your ferts are true Organic then you want to start around 2-3 weeks after transplant into new soil unless she looks hungery





EDIT: FFS Just noticed ingredients to the SOIL. PEAT.......................... Try finding one with less than 30% PEAT - Coco rick soils I find the best (roots love that coco shit) I bet your one them kids that takes all the best advise and chucks it to the wind. Good luck anyways and Goodbye


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90f is too hot I think... see the deep ridges on the leaves... looks like heat stress too

Quitekeen said:

90f is too hot I think... see the deep ridges on the leaves... looks like heat stress too

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OMG FOR THE LAST TIME THE THERMO IS BROOOOOOOOOOOKE!!!!! JUST USE IT FOR HUMIDITY GAUGE, NEVER BREAKS 85 IN THAT BOX - EVER!!

canna_420 said:

Dude a basic Organic soil should have a few weeks of NPK in it. So dont be feeding it with ferts. Unless your Organic SOIL feeding. If your ferts are true Organic then you want to start around 2-3 weeks after transplant into new soil unless she looks hungery





EDIT: FFS Just noticed ingredients to the SOIL. PEAT.......................... Try finding one with less than 30% PEAT - Coco rick soils I find the best (roots love that coco shit) I bet your one them kids that takes all the best advise and chucks it to the wind. Good luck anyways and Goodbye


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WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT "DUDE" I 50/50'd IT WITH PERLITE!! I'M WORKING WITH WHAT I HAVE AT THIS VERY MOMENT! I'M BROKE TILL I GET MY CHECK TOM! I'VE GROWN IN THIS SOIL 4 DIFFERENT TIMES WITH NO PROBLEMS THOUGH! NONETHELESS, I DON'T TAKE "GOOD ADVICE" (if its good) AND THROW IT ANYWHERE! WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU SAY THIS, CHILD?! BECAUSE I DID THE ONLY THING ON COULD AT THE MOMENT TO SAVE THE PLANT?!

THE MIX IS NOW THE PICTURE OF THE INGREDIENTS UP TOP IN THE PIC (50%), AND THE PERLITE (50%)!!!! IT HAS A SPRINKLE (AND WHEN I SAY SPRINKLE I MEAN SPRINKLE OF "IN/TOP SOIL - FOX FA FARMS HAPPY FROG! AND A DASH OF CRUSHED DOLOMITE LIME! (

looks like u need to flush it.. and start off with low strength nute mix.. i had that happen to a dinafem white widow also.... after the transplant.. and feeding water around ph 6.0 i was good in a week.. new growth shows no problems.. .
my white widow # 1 ends up hermiing so igot rid of it .. and now i have a blue widow thats fuckin amazing.. so ill stick with this one.. and it was all dinafem freebies so whocares..

LIVE2GRO said:

looks like u need to flush it.. and start off with low strength nute mix.. i had that happen to a dinafem white widow also.... after the transplant.. and feeding water around ph 6.0 i was good in a week.. new growth shows no problems.. .
my white widow # 1 ends up hermiing so igot rid of it .. and now i have a blue widow thats fuckin amazing.. so ill stick with this one.. and it was all dinafem freebies so whocares..

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You're right, def free! Badass, free zones of weed!!! LOL! Got any pics? I'd love to see what the dinafem white hybrid looks like!! This is what they say mine will look like in full bloom (pic provided by dinafem!)



I F'N HOPE IT LOOKS LIKE THAT!! ^^^ jeez! I'M GROWING HER TILL SHE STOPS DEAD IN HER TRACKS IN A 4 GALLONER, NO TOPPING, FIMMING, LSTING, NOTHING!

This thing is about to take off now that the soil isn't so damn acidic, its buffered and in a HELLA light soil! Obviously she's LOVING it cuz she looks MUCH better today! You can tell that she's going to be white/purplish and look at the fuckin BUNDLES OF LEAVES growing IN BETWEEN the sets!! INSANE! She's about to do a 180 once those roots catch (looking like they are ALREADY!) AND I start feeding her!

Thanks and mad rep to the peeps who told me to lighten the soil! I need to know how to Rep, cuz theirs some ppl that deserve it! Do I just "like" their post??

She'll be FINE in this mix for now... Might turn to something else when i transplant again into the gallon pot and so forth (up to 4 gallons is all my grow box can handle with height and my new ballast and grow light hanger )!!!!

Check her out, u can tell when the flash is on (by seeing the purple leaves/white triches and hairs) and when its not (mostly just GREEN!)














STILL NOT SURE WHY MY LEAVES TACO DOWN (even though the NEW growth doesn't look like its tacoing on top - they look straight and normal. So maybe she's under control?) , HUMIDITY AT 40% AND TEMPS AT 85. HASN'T BEEN WATERED SINCE FLUSH AND TRANSPLANT! NOBONE COULD ANSWER ME ON ANY TYPE OF DEFICIENCY!

looks like seed genetics , maybe ur using a bad quality seed ,

i see tricombs already thats interesting. i would try very hard to keep that around it looks as if it could be some very valuble genetic stock. i do not know how to tell you to keep it alive but when it doubt miracle grow it out. miricle grow takes care of any deficiency. i have for real tho, if i see a nute def. go real bad i use miracle grow should perc rich back plenty of chelated iron and magnesium.

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i see tricombs already thats interesting. i would try very hard to keep that around it looks as if it could be some very valuble genetic stock. i do not know how to tell you to keep it alive but when it doubt miracle grow it out. miricle grow takes care of any deficiency. i have for real tho, if i see a nute
def. go real bad i use miracle grow should perc rich back plenty of chelated iron and magnesium.

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That isn't a reverted clone, it's a seeding but ok... THC is the plant's defense mechanism against heat stress, bugs, inclement weather, etc. It's a genetic advantage they have and it's based off the plant's land of origin so It might be possible for him to have them although there's not enough maturation for them to be potent.. just built ups sugars.. Hope this phenotype makes it so we can see how she blooms.

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OMG FOR THE LAST TIME THE THERMO IS BROOOOOOOOOOOKE!!!!! JUST USE IT FOR HUMIDITY GAUGE, NEVER BREAKS 85 IN THAT BOX - EVER!!



WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT "DUDE" I 50/50'd IT WITH PERLITE!! I'M WORKING WITH WHAT I HAVE AT THIS VERY MOMENT! I'M BROKE TILL I GET MY CHECK TOM! I'VE GROWN IN THIS SOIL 4 DIFFERENT TIMES WITH NO PROBLEMS THOUGH! NONETHELESS, I DON'T TAKE "GOOD ADVICE" (if its good) AND THROW IT ANYWHERE! WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU SAY THIS, CHILD?! BECAUSE I DID THE ONLY THING ON COULD AT THE MOMENT TO SAVE THE PLANT?!

THE MIX IS NOW THE PICTURE OF THE INGREDIENTS UP TOP IN THE PIC (50%), AND THE PERLITE (50%)!!!! IT HAS A SPRINKLE (AND WHEN I SAY SPRINKLE I MEAN SPRINKLE OF "IN/TOP SOIL - FOX FA FARMS HAPPY FROG! AND A DASH OF CRUSHED DOLOMITE LIME! (

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your a moron. Everyone here as given good advice and you make them sound like their the ones growing wrong
Take a look at my FINISHED pics online.
Not one as ever ad these problems as I aint thick enough to not listen.
As it goes if OG was still online you could find around 10 yrs worth of growing online.

If you think your plant in that pot will look like Dinafems your dreaming. A litle Shock as you say cant make a difference more so impact the yield.
Many other thing i could go into but your to disrespectful for me to waste my time,

Hope you do well with your fine as yields.....

a grow thread you might like here on fork growing somewhere

It'd be nice to have a moderator tell this guy at least to stop using CAPS! his flaming is funny though