I really need some help

lordjin

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What logic says they can't be okay with 200-250ppm? What logic says you can grow with 100ppm in your water, not know what it is and be fine? Have you been reading Al B. Fucked's ramblings or what?

Look at that dense, soaking rockwool cube. How do you expect anything to grow in that? Are you aerating your solution at least?
 

dbkick

Well-Known Member
So why do AN think differently? This quote was taken directly from their own website:

+ CAN RHINO SKIN AFFECT PH?
Yes, Rhino Skin is a powerful pH Up formula that can dramatically raise pH, even when used in very small amounts. To ensure that Rhino Skin is properly dissolved and distributed in your nutrient water, add it to your reservoir at least two hours before feeding, allowing it to solubulize. Agitate your water before you administer it to plants.
I have no idea, get some rhinoskin and try it , you're ph will stay the same OR og down, it will not go up. On the other hand try some protekt, your ph WILL go up.
 

dbkick

Well-Known Member
yes I did calibrate it.

I desided that its time to sink or swim so I changed the water and did not ad any silica this time just Tiger bloom and GH flora micro a tiny bit of superthrive and a tiny bit of cal -mag.I ran the ppm at 500 And waited .......

The old growth that was already damaged got real real bad. But the tops are getting darker green and they are finally moving again. They were PH locked and starving also.

thanks!
As i stated early on, I've put seedlings in 1000+ ppm solution without a problem.
 

zildgin

Member
What logic says they can't be okay with 200-250ppm? What logic says you can grow with 100ppm in your water, not know what it is and be fine? Have you been reading Al B. Fucked's ramblings or what?

Look at that dense, soaking rockwool cube. How do you expect anything to grow in that? Are you aerating your solution at least?

Wow very hostile ...why? I have noticed that this seems to be the tone around here. This website seems to be going thru some kind of civial war.

thanks.
 

zildgin

Member
why on earth would you be using tiger bloom during veg ? (had to , that was kinda obvious)

Have you ever looked at Tiger bloom its amazing stuff. Look it up I know three growers other than me that run just TB from start to finish. They add alittle of this and that to it also but its very little. Almost pure TB and there stuff is flawless. unlike mine LOL...
 

lordjin

Well-Known Member
Wow very hostile ...why? I have noticed that this seems to be the tone around here. This website seems to be going thru some kind of civial war.

thanks.
There's random hostility on all of these marijuana sites. This place isn't special.

Why? Because you irritated me with your problem, that's why. I've instructed noobs many times who screwed up exactly as you did. I'm sure it's all here on this site somewhere if you bothered to do any research.
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
There's random hostility on all of these marijuana sites. This place isn't special.

Why? Because you irritated me with your problem, that's why. I've instructed noobs many times who screwed up exactly as you did. I'm sure it's all here on this site somewhere if you bothered to do any research.
I'm sure it would be better if you just relaxed a bit? if your irritated, you don't need to take it out on anyone? your not making the situation any better with your hostility, we all appreciate help, and solid advise.... but with a bit of compassion not frustration? Simply don't post then...go chill for a bit...sheesh
 

zildgin

Member
There's random hostility on all of these marijuana sites. This place isn't special.

Why? Because you irritated me with your problem, that's why. I've instructed noobs many times who screwed up exactly as you did. I'm sure it's all here on this site somewhere if you bothered to do any research.

Your why the internet is so cool.
 

wyteboi

Well-Known Member
why on earth would you be using tiger bloom during veg ? (had to , that was kinda obvious)

Have you ever looked at Tiger bloom its amazing stuff. Look it up I know three growers other than me that run just TB from start to finish. They add alittle of this and that to it also but its very little. Almost pure TB and there stuff is flawless. unlike mine LOL...
yes tiger bloom is good stuff an so is the grow big an big bloom. but the tiger by itself is NOT at all a balenced diet for veg (or bloom in my opinion) there is just not enough N in there an thats why they sell the veg food too.

all that extra P will lock out all kinds of things. if your friends are doin it , they are adding N.

plus the soil biology cant handle all that P when it dont get used.






soil
 

skunkushybrid01

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I have no idea, get some rhinoskin and try it , you're ph will stay the same OR og down, it will not go up. On the other hand try some protekt, your ph WILL go up.
I know you have no idea which is why i took the time to show you from AN's own website that silicon works as a pH up, a very powerful one. yet you still want to stay in denial?

I'm not, and I have a very good idea. I don't need to test it, I know what silicon will do. wtf?
 

dbkick

Well-Known Member
I know you have no idea which is why i took the time to show you from AN's own website that silicon works as a pH up, a very powerful one. yet you still want to stay in denial?

I'm not, and I have a very good idea. I don't need to test it, I know what silicon will do. wtf?
yo clown, I used the shit , my ph went down. Are you calling me a liar? You obviously THINK you know. Vie cojete solo pilo dente , and have a nice day.
 

dbkick

Well-Known Member
I know you have no idea which is why i took the time to show you from AN's own website that silicon works as a pH up, a very powerful one. yet you still want to stay in denial?

I'm not, and I have a very good idea. I don't need to test it, I know what silicon will do. wtf?
hey everybody! lets copy and paste something from the internet and not even question whether its true or not, lets not do any research and then lets call people out when they post facts about true life experiences. The internet is full of fucking morons.
 

dirtysnowball

Well-Known Member
yeah the plant is starving, it has N defficiency(yellowing lower leaves), and K defficiency(singed tips with necrotic spots). 400ppm is really weak, try 800ppm for a week.
 

skunkushybrid01

Well-Known Member
yo clown, I used the shit , my ph went down. Are you calling me a liar? You obviously THINK you know. Vie cojete solo pilo dente , and have a nice day.
Not a liar, just mistaken.

AN make rhinoskin, and even they tell you on their own website that it works as a pH up. the reason your pH went down is because you used other nutrients, however the silicon would work slowly in the background to raise pH without you being aware of it, unless it is mixed thoroughly.

I don't just think I know, I actually know and so does most of this forum I imagine. You really need to think before you shoot off like that, also maybe try using google to test your facts. You're just making yourself look like an idiot.
 

wyteboi

Well-Known Member
As i stated early on, I've put seedlings in 1000+ ppm solution without a problem.
so are you saying everybody can just do what you do ?

yo clown, I used the shit , my ph went down. Are you calling me a liar? You obviously THINK you know. Vie cojete solo pilo dente , and have a nice day.
he dont have to call you a liar. hes simply stating facts..... again.

you shoulda already knew why your ph went down. you already know so much about the junk , how come you cant figure out on your own why it went down ?


im curious as to how you "tested" this product ? it says right on it , it can be a very powerful ph up , so what ? you just decided to see for yourself if it would work as a down ?


back to the point .... silica is a waste of time in this situation. obviously , he cant feed over 300 without probs.


his whole prob was a lack of N and using silica when not necessary. silica was throwing the ph all over the place. (probably over 8

if she dont get some N in her the rest wont matter.






soil
 
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