Way to much ph up

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #1 02-06-2008, 02:32 PM

I started trying to ph my plants with the kit I got from the indoor grow shop in town but with lack of knowledge on it I screwed up royaly. The package doesn't specify how much it takes to up or down so I gussed, big mistake. I also had added the nutes before I tried to test it, another mistake. Now I know to ph the water then add the nutes. Most of my plants went yellow and 2 of them have almost died. I should have used only a few drops in a gallon of water and I used almost a 1/4 cup! because with the nutes I couldn't get a match on my color scale. I should have thrown it out and started over but I watered with it anyway. Several of my plants went yellow on bottem and then on the new tops. 2 plants actually burnt the new leaves. I've started flushing with 6 to 6.5 ph water and no nutes and I've seen a small improvement in just 2 days. I'm hoping they all pull through but I thought I's post this so someone else doesn't make the same mistake I did.

fatass03 · #2 02-06-2008, 02:35 PM

wow...sorry to hear that. Have you tested the PH of the run off to see if the ph has come back down?

HippieMan · #3 02-06-2008, 02:40 PM

you're crazy

1 drop of advanced nutrients PH-Up raises it by like 1 point... it doesn't tell me exactly how much to add so that is a pain in the ass

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #4 02-06-2008, 03:04 PM

I have not tested the run off yet. I figured I'd flush for a week with the 6 to 6.5 ph water before I tried anything with the nutes again. I've put in some pics of the initial grow cup and how I prepare the new pots. Also I was told by the guy at the indoor grow shop to not use miricale grow but as I've been reading other posts I decided to mix 1 part to 5 parts of the fox farm. As I said several of my plants are fine and growing like crazy in just 3 days in their new home. They were sprouted on jan 6th and transplanted on th 4th. They have had three pinchings and have bushed out very well. I know it has taken away from the height and the growing energy has set them back by a week or two but I only have 4 feet in which to grow and I belive these are sativa which tend to grow tall so I wanted them short and bushy. When should I try to clone to determine the sex? I may transplant when the weather warms but right now it's snowing outside.

sleepytown · #5 02-06-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by It's 5 o'clock somewhere

I started trying to ph my plants with the kit I got from the indoor grow shop in town but with lack of knowledge on it I screwed up royaly. The package doesn't specify how much it takes to up or down so I gussed, big mistake. I also had added the nutes before I tried to test it, another mistake. Now I know to ph the water then add the nutes. Most of my plants went yellow and 2 of them have almost died. I should have used only a few drops in a gallon of water and I used almost a 1/4 cup! because with the nutes I couldn't get a match on my color scale. I should have thrown it out and started over but I watered with it anyway. Several of my plants went yellow on bottem and then on the new tops. 2 plants actually burnt the new leaves. I've started flushing with 6 to 6.5 ph water and no nutes and I've seen a small improvement in just 2 days. I'm hoping they all pull through but I thought I's post this so someone else doesn't make the same mistake I did.

I always check pH after the nutes are mixed. The nutes will change the pH!!

S-Town

fatass03 · #6 02-06-2008, 03:32 PM

Well, I'm on my first grow and its hydro so I'm still new (but have been reading everything I can for the past few months). In hydro, I add my nutes first and then adjust the PH because the nutes will change the ph. I don't know if it is different with soil.
Ph has driven me crazy in my hydro system because I have to adjust it 3 times a day and just can't keep it down. I have now started a couple of clones in soil to see if that will work any better for me but, I am in no way giving up on hydro because the plants grow like crazy.
I've read a lot on here about clones but, don't seem to be having a lot of luck keeping them looking pretty (I use a humidity dome). They turn yellow on me but, do eventually get roots. Just for the hell of it I took a clone and put it in a cup of water with 1/4 nutes. Its been in there for just over a week and is just as green as it was the day I put it in there. I found a new way to clone using a wick system and think I'll be trying it next. Here is the link if you're interested:

Fool-Proof Cloning -- CHEAP ! - 420 Genetics

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #7 02-06-2008, 05:21 PM

I will need a meter I guess, I'm red green color blind and after I add the nutes I can't get it to match anything on the color chart. That's what got me in trouble in the first place. After spending $650 on my set up I guess another $100 for a meter won't kill me, but loosing the whole crop would! Thanks for the info and I will keep this string updated with progress and pics.

fatass03 · #8 02-06-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by It's 5 o'clock somewhere

I will need a meter I guess, I'm red green color blind and after I add the nutes I can't get it to match anything on the color chart. That's what got me in trouble in the first place. After spending $650 on my set up I guess another $100 for a meter won't kill me, but loosing the whole crop would! Thanks for the info and I will keep this string updated with progress and pics.

I bought my digital meter off ebay for less than $30.00

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #9 02-08-2008, 08:37 AM

Do the plants look nitrogen starved? I see alot of people have read the thread but not alot of comments. If you can help me or know someone who can please let me know. I have some pics of what I found today. They were transplanted on monday. I also have a pic of the nutes I was told to try. I haven't given them any for over a week because I wanted to flush th roots from th ph poisoning and the new soil should have plenty of nutes for a week or two.

Again, any help is still help...

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #10 02-08-2008, 08:47 AM

They got 1/4 tsp of the planticilin, bio-grow, and the bio-bloom in a half gallon of water for a week when they were two weeks old. The next week, all of them at 1/4 tsp with 1/2 gal of h2o. But that is also the week I mixed in the ph up. I flushed after seeing all of them start to yellow and immediatly jumped on here to find the source. Any ideas on when to start back on nutes and should I get diff nutes?