Way to much ph up - Page 5

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #41 02-24-2008, 06:36 PM

Turned the light back on after 7 hours and looked at temp. 54 degrees and 65 humidity during the dark. It's usually between 70 and 75 degrees with 35% humidity with the light on. The plant that had drooped was perked back up. I haven't read anything about over nutes yellowing the new growth. Can any one back 420? should I not use nutes until flower? I showed the soil I'm using in an earlier post, does anyone have advice on the soils I'm using?.... Can ph still be my problem? all the plants are looking a ton better than they were 2 weeks ago.....

LION~of~ZION · #42 02-24-2008, 06:58 PM

1/4 cup?!

flush them well for a bit watch them closely then feed them with discretion. you'll be fine.

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #43 02-25-2008, 06:49 AM

Thanks. I have been flushing them for 2 weeks and they have snapped out of it. Now I'm trying to get a handle on what's going on with the newest growth being so yellow on three of my plants and it looks normal light green on the rest...

Also I was wondering through the posts on this site trying to pick up a pointer or two and ran across one guy who thought his plants were showing female pistals on his new growth bud sites. I have the same thing showing on the plant that has all the new yellow growth but the clear hairs are soon followed by new sets of leaves. Is this normal?

Does it mean the plant will be female? That would be awsome because it is th plant that I want to put outside and let it grow into a monster by fall....

Any thoughts or questions? I'll try to get some pictures up today so you can see what I'm talking about....

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #44 02-25-2008, 02:58 PM

I got them out for about 3-4 hours and squeezed the pots to break up the soil. I took some pic's and plucked some of the shade leaves blocking the new growth down low. I'l use the sprout sites for clones later this week, if the yellowing problem quits. I put them back rotating their position under the light again...

Any thoughts on how they are looking?(oops, I changed the megapix on the camera and the files are to big. I'll have to resize them before I can post them) I'm hoping that breaking up the soil will allow oxygen to the roots and release some of the trapped moisture.

I'm going to take the advice that was given and only water without nutes for a while til I get a grasp on what they're trying to tell me.... Thanks for stopping in and helping with my grow....

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #45 02-26-2008, 02:07 PM

I watered them today with ph'd water of 6. This time I checked the run off. It also ph'd at 6. They are getting some sleep again today. I have made up my mind that I'm going to go to the grow shop and get a heating pad and some cloneing supplies so I can try my hand at that.

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #46 02-26-2008, 08:32 PM

Well leave it to me to go for some cloning gel. Buy rock wool, a tray, a dome, and a meter for moisture, ph, and light. The guy talks and talks trying to help teach me how to clone. Winds giving me the gel and some pills to put in the soil when putting the rockwool in soil to help with shock. I finally say I gotta go and take everything but the gel.... So I will attempt the cloning tomorrow....

I bought a metter that is for soil. It gives readings on ph light and moisture. I was skeptical but he told me if it wasn't acurate I could bring it back. I bought a 4.1 test calibrator solution to check the meter now and then, he had a 7.0 but thought the 4.1 would be better for this meter because 7,8, and 9 are so close and 4.1 would be easier to read.

I ph'd the solution and it was dead on. I then tested all the plants. They all tested out between 6.8 and 7.0. I was told that I was probably suffering from nitrogen dif if the ph wasn't off so I watered them with half a gallon water with 1/2 tsp planticillan and 1/2 tsp bio-grow split between all 7. I'll check to see if the new growth greens up by tomorrow. I took more pic's but I guess 2.2 mp is to big? I thought that is what I was using before but I'll try 2.1 mp next time.

I've set up the dome with the Sunleaves Pioneer VII for it's light. I'm going to try some large clones to hopefully flower them quickly for sexing and if their girls I will get some quick samples of what may be in store for next winter.....

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #47 02-27-2008, 04:09 PM

Ok! I finally got my act together and got the gel and pills. I went and got some 4 gallon pots, some pea gravel and mir-grow potting mix. If any of these turn out to be female I will repot them. I took my clones today. 3 from plant A, B, C, D, and E. I took 2 from F and G as they are smaller and I don't want to Kill them I just want to know what they are...

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #48 02-27-2008, 04:20 PM

I also don't know anything about this meter but it claims to be able to measure fertility of the soil. Is that very accurate? The reason I ask is the plants might be using up the nutes from the soil faster than I thought they would and there fore what I thought was a ph problem is actually a lack of nutes. That would explain the yelllowing and why they greened up after I fed them with the mir-grow last week but went back to water and didn't give them enough. What do you think?

I put out a new thread to see if I could get someone to help... I guess it's sit and wait....

It's 5 o'clock somewhere · #49 02-27-2008, 07:11 PM

Well, I checked on them and what do you know.... They were actually doing great! I thought I would check and find them all wilted and sad, but they are looking like they have just been freed! The yellow is still there but not so pronuonced, and since I took the cuttings from the canopy it has opened up the low branches to light. I picked up a mist bottle and misted the clones. The dome already had some condensation on it. I hung the light with a parka over it and took 2 of the bulbs out. They are T5 HO 24w bulbs and I don't want to give them to much light. Then put them up off the floor so they won't get to cold.

I gave the plants a small dose of nutes with some distilled water at 6.5 ph. I split a half gallon up between all 7 hopeing to dillute into the water already in the soil. I won't have to water them for a few days I'm sure. Here are some more pic's. I tried to show some before and after cutting pic's so you can see how it opened things up for the lower branches.

I hope to get at least 1 maybe 2 females but wouldn't I shit if all of them were ladies....

cruzer101 · #50 02-27-2008, 08:03 PM

Congrats!

I know what your going through. I made similar mistakes and finally when I got it right I was excited too. Funny thing this growing. They are hard to start but once you have roots you got a plant.

Take your clone from the lower portion of the plant because thats where more rooting hormones are stored.

Hey something I just read, You want the mothers to be clear of nutes. before taking cuttings so flush for a week before cutting, take one clone from each plant. Be sure to label them, get them rooted then flower them right away.
In a couple weeks you should know what you have.

Another tip is after the first 45 degree cut and trimming the node make a slice up into the bottom of the stock about 1/4 inch. It will promote rooting.

Clones dont need nutes, they need rooting formula or plain water. Actually the best water I have found is sold through those machines for like 30 cents a gallon. Its RO water at like 40PPMs great for plants. you still need to check the ph though.

Good luck to ya.