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Old 02-16-2008, 06:58 PM
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I lowered th ph and flushed, then repotted. I have read alot on nute diffiencies like zinc and mg. I see the resemblance to what I found in the pic you sent. Thank you for checking in. Any help is still help. The plants have seemed to make a fair recovery and have shown new growth. Will they suffer long term results?

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they dont look to bad seems like they will be ok, once the ph is ok you should feed again right?
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I still don't have a fan on them but I shake the branches when I check on them to try and strengthen them til it gets warm enough to run a fan. Are they big enough to clone?

How long should I grow a clone before I try to flower?

If I get a female branch of a hermi will it show a female when I sex it and go hermi when I try to grow it out?
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:10 PM
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I didn't feed them for a week, only 6 to 6.5 ph flush with water. I started them back on nutes after they had been transplanted 5 days and both times I fed them I've listed what I used.
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fans are not just for strenght.......... stale air in the grow room can lead to bigger problems i think they will be fine but they need to keep getting better so you dont lose harvest from them being stressed
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They are in a crawl space that is 12 x 26. I took insulation board and stapled mylar to it. The entrance to the crawl is small and full sheets couldn't be used so they were cut into 2x4 foot pieces. It looked like a mess. The sheets dont go all the way to the top so I stapled the mylar to the ceiling and drapped it down to the ground. There are big holes in the top and around the ground. It's cold in the crawl because of the winter weather, around 50-60. The 400 watt mh bulb keeps it about75-83 depending on how warm it gets outside. With the lamp heating the air it raises to the ceiling causing a vacancy where it used to be thus pulling in air from around the bottem and the hot air vents out the holes in the top. I don't think I will have a problem with stale air but it has shown me when the outside temp gets around 55-60 the crawl warms up enough that I'm going to have to get a fan.

Because this all kinda started by accident I didn't really have time to plan all this out and have the equiptment set up. I wound up with plants I realy didn't think would grow because of the age of the seeds and how they were stored. I hope to get some time to construct a proper room. The rock on the crawl floor is 3-4 foot deep near the base where it meets the full basement wall so I will eventually dig down to give myself some more height.At that time I will construct something more permenate with walls and a ducted air system with a filter for oder.
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Gave them a gallon of 6.5 ph water yesterday because they started to look like they were over fed again. Today they seemed good but the very ends of the branches are hanging down instead of growing toward the light.?.They got a 7 hour nap today and 6 hours yesterday. I don't know if it benifits them to get the dark and the lower temps but if I do put them outside when the weather warms enough, it will still get pretty cold at night.Maybe this will prepare them for the change?

I accidentialy broke a branch off while checking them today, I'm not set up with the stuff for a clone so it is a waste but what are you gonna do?

Two of the plants are pretty bushy while three of them have started to really streatch upward. Then there are the two "special children" that have shown new growth and an I can attitude. No water today or tomorrow unless they show a need to be flushed again.

I'm learning that you really don't need much. Your not building a steroid guzzling weight lifter your trying to grow a plant and give it what it needs in the best environment it could want....
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International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! was reading around on different threads and ran across this link. I read up and found that, just as I suspected I was having all my problems because of my fuck up with the ph. I have made up my mind to invest in a meter as I can't seem to master the drops... It caused a number of problems. As I looked at the pictures I saw match after match. I still don't have it under control yet as I have found that my plants now suffer with a boron difficincy. I read that I can treat for this with eye wash and I will try today. It's sunny today and I might try to get them out for some pics and real sun for a change....
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with ph its a trail an error thing. A little goes a long way.In my 50 gallon res tanks I use abount 1 table spoon of ph down to drop the water from around 7.8 to 6ish then just a 1/8 teaspoon til its right at 5.5 ish range for aero hydro.Soil is even touchier.The best way is a simple digital ph pen as no color matching crap. Yoiu turn the pen on dip it and it shows a digital ph reading. they cost about $28 on ebay new with warranty.Be very careful.Im finding best soil ph for me is 6.8 water
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Thank you.. I want this grow to be my learning curve. I gave them a 7 hour nap again today. Not much has changed since I watered with the eye wash in it. Had people over so I could'nt get them out like I wanted...

I have been using a dropper to add the ph up and down. The first time I just splashed some in without even measuring it because there was no ratio on the bottels.... I will check on the pen and hopefully get the upper hand on the ph before it kills my plants...
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