Northern lights plant is way to small, please help!

Legolandon

Legolandon

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On Jul. 18th my northern lights seed germinated and I planted it. On Aug. 29th my plant was 4" tall and I was eager for some bud, so I put it into flowering. Now on Sep. 6th it is 5" with 3 nodes brand new calyxes showing that it's female and the leaves have small crystals. Please help, it's been nearly 2 months and my plant is tiny! She is in a 10" pot in some Organic Seed starting Jiffy mix soil mixed with clay hydroponic beads (she's not grown hydroponicly though). She is 3 1/2' away from a 400w HPS light on 12 hrs. A day. Watered twice a day, only been nutriented once at half power with miracle gro tomato nutrients. Soil ph is at 7.0 and water ph is at 7.0. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! Thank you a lot!
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Destillat

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you can lower your light to about 14 inches away and def water less. 10" pot i'd probably water no more than once a day until runoff. If you want to see whats going on in the soil, check the ph of your runoff. It should be around 6.5. I'd suggest lowering your ph to 6.5 personally. Get some serious nutrients, but if you can't get any you def need to get some bloom/ripe nutrients in there. Check to make sure what you have isn't for veg.

When you lower the lights check your temps and make sure it's all good, but that alone will definitely help your plant.
 
Father Earth

Father Earth

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Your light is your problem. The closer the more lumens are provided, which in return increases the rate production of photosynthesis, which in return helps your growth. Why have your Hps so far? Heat issues? And I would start your Tomato nutes now. I have a fresh box of it as well. I'm sure your soil is almost drained of its nutrients after 2+ months. Try that and let me know I'm sure im right. Take care
 
Legolandon

Legolandon

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Father Earth said:
Your light is your problem. The closer the more lumens are provided, which in return increases the rate production of photosynthesis, which in return helps your growth. Why have your Hps so far? Heat issues? And I would start your Tomato nutes now. I have a fresh box of it as well. I'm sure your soil is almost drained of its nutrients after 2+ months. Try that and let me know I'm sure im right. Take care
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Thanks a lot for your great response, are you sure my HPS won't put out too much heat for the plant? If your sure, I'll do that. I'll also put up pictures later this evening. And also I have miracle gro bloom booster, should I use that or keep on using the tomato one? Thanks a lot!
 
Mrfootball420

Mrfootball420

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$100 says he is over watering his plants. i bet he waters them everyday and that the soil is just mud which is suffocating his root system. number one rookie mistake and it gets them every time.


damn im good. went back a read your post all the way through and you water twice a day:lol:

let the soil dry out and then water once every few days. then sit back and watch your plants take off.
 
Legolandon

Legolandon

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Mrfootball420 said:
$100 says he is over watering his plants. i bet he waters them everyday and that the soil is just mud which is suffocating his root system. number one rookie mistake and it gets them every time.

damn im good. went back a read your post all the way through and you water twice a day:lol:

let the soil dry out and then water once every few days. then sit back and watch your plants take off.
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You misread my text then, The plant is in marble-sized clay beads for hydroponics mixed with soil. The clay beads take up to 4 times more space than the soil does, it dries out very easily, I have to water it that often.
 
Legolandon

Legolandon

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Here are the pictures of the plant, some of her leaves are kind of chewed off, but that's from spider mites a while back (now they're gone)!



The last picture is a picture showing how far away the plant is from the light!
Thanks a lot for your help!
 
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Destillat

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can't see pics, but if you made a soil ratio of 4 parts hydroton to 1 part soil, that is definitely a problem too. Soilless media only works because hydroponic growers bathe their plants in very high amounts of professional grade nutrients. You need more soil for the type of nutrients you are using.
 
The Weedster

The Weedster

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I had a plant that had the same problem... I grew it for 2 1/2 months and the plant grew to about 5 inches tall... I found out that my plant was overheated and too much humidity... Then I started feeding it miracle grow 20/20/20 water soluble and she took off like a weed... She is in 72 degree temps now with 30 percent humidity and doing very good.. She is 4 foot tall and in the 7th week of flowering... Just thought that might help if you might have the same conditions.... I fed her the miracle grow half strength every feeding...
 
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parannoyed

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Legolandon said:
! She is in a 10" pot in some Organic Seed starting Jiffy mix soil mixed with clay hydroponic beads (she's not grown hydroponicly though).:
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Legolandon said:
You misread my text then, The plant is in marble-sized clay beads for hydroponics mixed with soil. The clay beads take up to 4 times more space than the soil does, it dries out very easily, I have to water it that often.
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Your saying you have 4 parts beads for every 1 part soil. In a 10" pot that is only the equivalent of a 2" pot of soil. I think this is your problem.
 
Legolandon

Legolandon

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So your saying i should get rid of the clay beads? I'll give it a try, how do you recommend i transplant the plant out of the beads without killing her? And also, i put her 14" away from the light and she seemed kind of hot and droopy, is this normal at first or is the light to hot? It's a 400W HPS light, so there's a possibility of both.
 
cranker

cranker

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keeping them in nute-less soil and only feeding them one time...they do need food dude. And your light is too far away.
 
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parannoyed

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Lego- The way I see it you have a few options.
option #1~ go buy a 5 gallon bucket and generic topsoil with no nuits, then transplant. Some of your roots will be tangled in the hydrobeads but thats ok, dont try to remove them just put whatever comes out in the clump directly into the topsoil. Put a oscillating fan on her just enough to make the leaves dance. Water her every 3 days rotating between plain water and nuits.

option #2~ think of a flower in a vase. GENTLY remove your plant and wash off her roots. let her sit under the light 24hrs in just water. She should perk up. From here you could consider finishing her with bubbleponics (thats what I would do) or you could then transplant her into the 5 gallon bucket or for that matter you could put her back in your 10" with generic topsoil.

option #3~ pull clones and do it right next time with more plants
 
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wbd

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Some plants are just retarded like that, to be honest I don't see where you would have gone wrong. Your plant was stunted well before you put it into flower. I think really the only decision you have to make at this time is whether to invest any more of your time into this plant finishing it, or start over. I would lean towards the latter if I were you.
 
Legolandon

Legolandon

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parannoyed said:
Lego- The way I see it you have a few options.
option #1~ go buy a 5 gallon bucket and generic topsoil with no nuits, then transplant. Some of your roots will be tangled in the hydrobeads but thats ok, dont try to remove them just put whatever comes out in the clump directly into the topsoil. Put a oscillating fan on her just enough to make the leaves dance. Water her every 3 days rotating between plain water and nuits.

option #2~ think of a flower in a vase. GENTLY remove your plant and wash off her roots. let her sit under the light 24hrs in just water. She should perk up. From here you could consider finishing her with bubbleponics (thats what I would do) or you could then transplant her into the 5 gallon bucket or for that matter you could put her back in your 10" with generic topsoil.

option #3~ pull clones and do it right next time with more plants
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Thanks a lot! I'll do that tomorrow and let you know how it gos!
 
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