MY WHOLE CROP IS DYING, using earth juice and having serious problems. lower is worst

**sovieteve0118** · 08-21-2011, 01:09 PM

Here are pictures of whats happening to my plants. the very top new fan leaves look healthly and large but the whole rest of the plant is getting droopy, stale smelling, black and brown blotches all over the plants before the whole leaf breaks off at the stem.
the plant's are kind of bare other then the fanleaves because it looks like all the nodes have baby leaves growing out where new branches should be forming.
I checked the PH with my crappy meter and it reads 6.7 but its not a super accuarate meter but it seems like its right in the right range.
I feed with Earth juice grow, earth juice bloom, earth juice catalyst , and earth juice meta-k and earth juice, and a few drops of calmag and once a month I add in microblast. I let my water sit out for a at least 4 days before using it.
Can somebody please help me

**Wetdog** · 08-21-2011, 01:22 PM

Are you bubbling the EJ?

How much and how often for the Meta-K?

The Grow and Bloom?

Is there any lime in your mix?

What is the mix?

Got plenty of drain holes in those pots? Drainage in general?

Wet

**lakew00d** · 08-21-2011, 01:24 PM

I dont know much. but the last picture.. the container looks small for that large of a plant. O.o

**dam612** · 08-21-2011, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by lakew00d

I dont know much. but the last picture.. the container looks small for that large of a plant. O.o

yea they all look like 1gal milk containers

**Randm** · 08-21-2011, 01:34 PM

Looks overwatered , maybe nute lockout, to me. Really need more info to troubleshoot your problem.

Addaquate drainage (drain holes ) in those home made pots?
Overwatering?
What kind of lighting and how close to the plants?
How old are the plants, maybe too much in the way of nutes for their age.
What kind of soil. Most plants in soils do not need to be fed for 4 to 6 weeks as they get plenty of nutrition from the soil.
They will not need any aditional, or at least minimul, feeding until weeks 6 to 8 of their life. Most newbees overfeed and
overwater thinking that if a little works then a lot will work better.
What temperatures are they kept at, overheating this time of year is common. Shoot for 70 to 78 deg.

Bugs? Mold? Treatment for the same?

Need more info

**Grumpy'** · 08-21-2011, 01:37 PM

It's cause your using 1% milk jugs instead of whole milk!!! But I kid. Bigger pots would help. This looks to be phosphorus deficiency though.
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/foru...ad.php?t=54233
A decent chart showing burn/ deficiency on plants.

**sovieteve0118** · 08-21-2011, 01:48 PM

they are in half gallon milk jug containers.
i water ever 5 days when the soil is completly dry
i use 1-2tablespoon of grow , 1teaspoon of bloom, 1teaspoon of catalyst , 1 teaspoon of meta-k and 1/6 teaspoon of calmag per gallon every other watering with 1 teaspoon of microblast added into the mix every 4th watering.
I do not bubble because I dont know what that means, Im using foxfarm ocean mix soil
I have plenty of holes in the bottom with good drainage
they are over 5-7 weeks old
temp is usally between 70-82%
Im not using lime in any way
im using greenlite 26w cfl bulbs with a reflector , I know 8 plants is a bit much for this but Im just starting to change to 12/12 for a week or 2 so I can sort out the males then go back to 20/4 and still have a good amount of plants

**dirtysnowball** · 08-21-2011, 02:52 PM

there are two problems heres pics.... ok the dead spots are Phosphorus deficiency
example:Phosphorus deficiency in veg.jpg

and your plant is lime green, and the lower leaves are yellowing, it will slowly crawl up your plant..... that is called N deficiency. the lime green is an early indicator.
example 2:nitrogen defficiency early.jpg Nutepage.jpg

a healthy plant is darker, but not darker then a green crayola crayon but close to it.
aug 5th 2011.jpg

you need to feed her, 1/2 strength is best (900-1500ppm) any higher or lower will result in slower and smaller growth, good luck man.

**sovieteve0118** · 08-21-2011, 03:00 PM

ok, but doesnt earth juice have phosphorus and nitrogen in them? am I not feeding them enough or am I not adding something I should.
other then "1-2tablespoon of grow , 1teaspoon of bloom, 1teaspoon of catalyst , 1 teaspoon of meta-k and 1/6 teaspoon of calmag per gallon every other watering with 1 teaspoon of microblast added into the mix every 4th watering." what am I not adding that im getting these deficientcys? what am i doing wrong? thank you