Deformed new growth

Guys,

Sheesh, seems like every time I start to think I've got this growing thing figured out some thing new pops up that confounds the hell out of me. I'm hoping some of you might be able to give me some insight into what might be causing the new growth on some of my plants to be twisted and deformed. With in the last two weeks this has begun to show up on about 20% of my current crop.



They're being grown in a mix I made up (following some guidlines UB gave me, 6 months or so back) that contains a 3.8 cubic foot bale of Sunshine Mix #2, 2.5 cf bag of MG potting soil, 1 cf bag of steer manure, several cups of blood and bone meal, some dolomitic lime, and around 3 gallons each of perlite and vermiculite. No alfalfa pellets this time.

The plants are 58 days old (from seed in dirt). Around 23 days ago they were pinched to form two main colas. They have had no additional nutrients, minerals, hormones, etc. given to them and have only been watered with rain water or snow melt that I've collected. Could it be that by using this purer water I've deprived them of something essential that they're needing?

Temps have been in the 60 - 75 range (mostly 65 to 70). The lights aren't to close and there's a constant fresh air exchange thru the space. And based on the experience of about a dozen past grows I don't believe I'm either under watering or over watering them.

Additionally I also have some hot pepper plants that I've started for the out door garden and some of them are growing in a very deformed manner. They're in the same soil and have recieved the same water as the MJ.



Up until the last week or so everything seemed to be progressing fine with nice healthy growth. I've been re-reading all the stuff on nutrients and plant stress but am just stumped at this point. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

Jack

what size light

Change u soil...*fox farm ocean forest*....noone around u sells it??? Ebay does....light problems won't cause a deformed plant..streched yes......deformed..no...

doesnt really look deformed. I think his ph is to high

and yeah oceans forest is the shit

Im sure Jack youve done a ton of research on your soil and have no need to change it. My guess is its from the pinching. I have plants of mine that I did the FIM technique. Followed MBlazes instructions here on RIU. Got a loooot of good branches. But still some of the leaves came out deformed looking also, from looking at your pic looks could also be nut burn. GL im not the greatest on growing and still new but Ive done my research. GL. I bet those leaves will grow out and look normal soon enough,

benefit420 said:

Im sure Jack youve done a ton of research on your soil and have no need to change it. My guess is its from the pinching. I have plants of mine that I did the FIM technique. Followed MBlazes instructions here on RIU. Got a loooot of good branches. But still some of the leaves came out deformed looking also, from looking at your pic looks could also be nut burn. GL im not the greatest on growing and still new but Ive done my research. GL. I bet those leaves will grow out and look normal soon enough,

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Hey benefit,

I've thought about the pinching being the cause of that. Not only have I pinched for two main colas but I've been removing the secondary branches that were forming at the junctions of the first two opposing leaf sets that grew going up each main branch. Thought may be I'd caused to many of the plant's hormones to be concentrated at the growing tips of each of the main branchs. But the only problem with that theory is that it doesn't explain what's happening to my pepper plants because they haven't had any pinching done to them.

I used a soil mix very similar to what I'm using now on the crop before this and didn't experience any of this problem. The big difference was that when I made it up it sat for about two months (and worked) before I used it. I germinated these seeds in the last of that but didn't have enough of it left when I went to upcan the seedlings into 1 gallon pots. So I mixed up a new batch and started using it right away with out it's having had time to sit and mellow.

So may be it's either a little hot or may be there hasn't been enough time for microbial action to break some of the things down (especially the blood and bone meal) to where their nutrients are available to the plants.

Any how, yesterday I gave all the plants a good flushing. And then by way of an experiment I took the worst looking one and gave it a 1/3 strength dose of 15-30-15 just to try and confirm if the problem was a nute deficency rather than a nute excess. Because over all I'm not really seeing the normal indications that I associate with nute burn. In fact I'm seeing hints of the opposite. Most of the cotyledons have already yellowed and died back.

The last crop gave me a lesson on thrips and it sure is looking like this one is going to teach me something valuable also.

Jack out.

call the ER we have an overdose