i just dont understand how they can go from healthy and looking good to fallen over and dying in 20 hours

they are young, weak, susceptable...

haha

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not to discourage but they can die a hell of a lot faster than that!

i might just wait until the spring to plant outside and stop trying inside

sounds like theyre drying out..i grow under cfls as well and i give my plants a little water everyday....never had a problem with over watering or underwatering doing it this way.

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maybe i will try that

Yeah, put your hand right above your plants. Does it feel hot? or even a little hotter than if its not there? If it is, move them away further.

If you put your thermometer right by the soil, you're getting radiant temp, not air temp....Radiant temp can hit 40-50 degrees C and the plants should be fine, but if you have the air temp (not in the light but in the room) above 80-85 you need to get some vents or something.

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Dang man, what strain again? I just germed a few of my JF seeds again, two nights in my germ box in a bag with wet paper towel ready. Then they go in Oasis cubes, then right in my Rainforest with GH seedling level nutes plug in turn on CFl, wait. I vent the cab into a 10 inch duct but no fan. Check water level every three days.

I could give you a DIY, really a killer setup. But honestly, chuck those soil things. Germ new seeds and order this.
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I think price is fair, you get EVERYTHING you need sans a ph kit ($14) and I have never had to adjust my Ph the nutes handle it and I have some crazy water. Do what I said and you will have great plants. Seriously, it is what I do, this is what you get.

Hell I will give you a few seeds to germ I'm so sure it will work FUCK SOIL

Id say the lights are too close for the young seedlings.CFLs get hot.Make sure you have the correct blue light spectrum cfls and not the red spectrum and keep them about 6 inches away for 2 weeks or til the plants get a few leaves.I prefer a 4 foot shop light as its much beter then the cfls to start out with and has no heat

ill try germing and growing one more time