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The Grow Room forums; So I picked up 4 clones from a local club about 2 weeks ago. They were rooted pretty well so ...
Enough light stress to cause Hermie issues?
So I picked up 4 clones from a local club about 2 weeks ago. They were rooted pretty well so I just threw them straight into flower. Should not be a problem there.
Last week we had some big storms roll through. Power went out @ the house for about an hour and a half. Power did go out BEFORE lights were supposed to come on. So they sat in darkness for about an extra hour and half than normal.
About 5 days later, the power company was messing around and lights went out about a half hour before normal.
Do you think this would be enough light stress to cause hermie issues? A couple of my clones have popped male flowers, along with female.
The only other issue I can think of that has caused them ANY stress at all is slightly low pH...and thats a new development.
+Rep for sound advice.
Oh, on a side note..I guess when the other patient I am growing with took the first clone back to the club (it was BAD hermie, every node!)...they tried to claim that any other hermies in the room could cause others to go hermie. I call bullshit, as far as I know a hermie in the room causes seeds.
Well, messing with a light schedule again and again can cause issues like yours.. especially if its a sensitive strain. It is a good possibility. I wouldnt rule it out.
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Yeah, the club is selling you shit clones. Those extra hours of darkness aren't enough to cause them to go hermie. And as you guessed....hermies can't turn other plants hermies, unless you practice grafting techniques and grafted them to one another.
Ive had hermies once. The light timer failed to turn the lights off for 4 days straight. Biggest burn they and I, have ever took.
It happend in the 3rd week of flower and they were the worst case of gayness ever. They were sheMALES.
Originally Posted by statik
I'm not a plant biologist by any means but I have raised 15+ crops in the last 7 or so years. And I've had some hermies before.
It is my opinion that if a plant is genetically predisposed to go hermie, it's going to do so no matter what you do. My crops get their light cycle interrupted all the time and I haven't had a hermie show up for quite some time.
In fact the only times I got any hermies was when I was starting out and was using random bag seed to grow from. Since getting some (non-feminized) seeds of the strain Allegria a couple years a go I haven't had a single hermie.
In fact it's also my opinion that it's this whole "feminized" seed thing that's spreading this hermie trait around and making it show up more and more. It would be interesting to know if those clones you got came from a mother plant that came from a feminized seed (or had one further back in it's genetic lineage).
PS: I'm pretty sure soil PH doesn't have a fucking thing to do with a plant going hermie.
My plants got very light stressed and not one went hermie on me. First my timer failed and they spent an extra 7 hours in darkness one day. I just adjusted the schedule to the new dawn and they never showed any signs of stress. Later I had a much more intense problem. My aeroponics system developed a major leak when some of the silicon cracked, which dumped 5 gallons of water onto my floor. I'm on the second floor of an apartment complex, and the water soaked through and leaked into the apartment below me. I was notified of the leak when maintenance called to tell me they were on their way (they got here 3 minutes later). I had to open the box during the dark cycle while flowering, shut off the aeroponics for the next 10 hours and flood my bathroom by disconnecting the water line to my toilet to pretend that's where the water came from. It was hectic, but the maintenance guy bought it and my girls are still growing fine, not one hermie in the bunch. I've also nute burned these girls and had a nasty pH problem. Not one male flower.
Based on my experience, I'm inclined to agree that there's a genetic disposition to hermaphroditism, and some plants are just going to turn hermie on you. Whether or not it's a result of the feminized seeds is an interesting thought, but I know nothing about that process or cannabis genetics so I can't develop an educated opinion on it.
Plants go hermie for a number of reasons actually. You probably just have superior growing techniques, and good genetics.
Originally Posted by Jack in the Bud
However, if you goof up enough you will get hermies, it's basically the plant thinking the world is coming to an end and bam it has some male flowers to continue on. It's a crude analogy but that is why it happens. Most flowering plants are hermies, and while marijuana is a rare case of a plant the exhibits male or female flowers, I believe that all flowering plants descended from Hermie ancestors.
My uncle grew some bag seed that turned hermie about 4 weeks in. We think that the bottom of the tent was getting light leakage due to the air flaps at the bottom. Only the bottom branches hermied, still ruined the entire crop in that tent though.
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i agree with jack in the bud, hermies all genetics. 90% genetics maybe 10% of the time its stress issues. the plant does'nt have enough cognative reasoning to know that the world is coming to and needs to do somthing.
Last edited by weed monkey; 01-29-2010 at 11:27 AM.
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the club sold u some shitty clones. 1hr of xtra darkness wont cause that . it wood b like a plant thats outside not recieving any lite for the 1hr if it was cloudy and thers no sun
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