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Old 11-06-2009, 11:17 PM
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just remember marijuana plants grow in the wild all by there self with no one tending to them and they do fine. i would just keep it simple , forget all the nutes and crap just make sure the ph in your water is accurate, and just water them, once all the stuff gets flushed out it should be fine, just dont over water
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Old 11-07-2009, 05:17 AM
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Great responses! Love the light chart cruzer.

Cowboy, thanks for telling me that clawing is due to either nute stress + overwatering, that helps me a ton.

I will get new pictures tomorrow when I water them. My current plan is to bring the light 2 inches closer in the morning and see how it goes from there (when plants are exhibiting symptoms of nute burn do they get affected by light stress much more?). I'll also try to remember to get the pH readings from the runoff and post those as well.

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Yes, nute burn can be aggrevated by too intense light. I would keep that 250 at 18 to 20 inches for now. Let the plants chill and heal for awhile. Then let them grow to the light. The more they grow the closer they get.
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Yes, nute burn can be aggrevated by too intense light. I would keep that 250 at 18 to 20 inches for now. Let the plants chill and heal for awhile. Then let them grow to the light. The more they grow the closer they get.

I watered them today and took a few pics. My pH meter was reading about 6.7 on the runoff, but it's been acting up a bit so I hope that's accurate. My one plant in worst condition isn't looking good at all, but I got some pics of my other plants to see if you can have a look on what that might be.

Sorry about the shitty picture phone quality.

Any other advice about the problem?

Thanks for the help so far guys, really appreciate it.
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Yeah all I see in the pictures (the ones without the orange HPS) look like they are nuted to hell. If you save some of the run off you can do nutrient testing on it to get a good idea of what you might have oded em on specifically.

I don't think a good flush ever hurts with nutrient build up and burn but only do that if you have continued problems after stopping foliar feeding. When you introduce different methods of feeding (especially with specific nutrients which can end up locking shit out) you are just going to have to worry about one more thing.

Concentrate on getting your general plant care down before you try to go over and above.

It looks like you planted in MG or something? From now on do not nute your plants til they start getting light from lack of N, then give them a proper dose of a full array of nutrients. Nuting early in soil is something a lot of people do.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:38 PM
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Thanks for the help. This is FFOF soil, I'm using light warrior now for my new purple kush clone so that I don't have overnuting probs again. It's very likely that I started using nutrients too early and I think that is where most of the problems came from.

I was just posting the pics to see if anyone had anymore acute diagnosis about the problem mostly. I was wondering if it WAS starting to possibly show some nitro deficiency yet.

Thanks guys!
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We see the pics of the lower leaf, How is the upper half doing?
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The top half is pretty green and looking decently healthy. Doesn't droop that much, but there are small wrinkles in the leaf and the tips look like they show mild heat stress. I'll try to borrow that camera phone again to show the top.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:23 PM
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You have provided a good amount of information and I am sure several people will be here to give you there opinions of your problems you seem to have diagnosed yourself by reading about it whether it is correct or not remains to be seen however you certainly have taken the time to get proper nutients and supplies.

My opinion?

Stop with all the crap.
Stop follair spraying except one last time to get whatever crap that is left under the leaf.
Water without any crap in it. Get the picture?

Basiclly get your plant that is a weed and could normally do this itself to grow before playing with all the crap.

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Sorry for taking so long to reply, I've been incredibly busy lately.

I recently flushed out all the plants except for the new kush plant (which I'm working on taking better care of than the last ones). I found the soil was much more acidic than I had previously thought; I'm hoping that flushing the soil will help with most of the problems.

On a random note, I have been using an oscillating fan directly on my plants at a high speed, do you guys recommend this? I've heard different sides of this debate.

I got a quick picture of the top of one of my plants (which is considerably more healthy than the bottom parts of it, but still could use tons of work) and I also got a general shot of the grow room itself. If you notice, I have a wide spectrum fleurescent light in between all the plants to give supplemental light (250 W HPS ~21 inches above tops of plants). What do you guys think about the placement of the light? I know it's not a CFL so it is likely to be hotter - do you think it's likely to burn some of them? (I think I might have seen burns on some of the kush clone's leaves and it was close to this light).

I'm really going to work on getting a decent camera to get better pics. I am seeing a few minor things on my new kush clone that I'm not sure of as well, so I'm hoping to get a few good shots of it soon.

Thanks again for all the help guys! If it weren't for you guys I know my situation would be exponentially worse.
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My opinion?

Stop with all the crap.
Stop follair spraying except one last time to get whatever crap that is left under the leaf.
Water without any crap in it. Get the picture?

Basiclly get your plant that is a weed and could normally do this itself to grow before playing with all the crap.

Good luck.


believe it or not this is very good advice.. VERY good.. because yeah they just need a really small amount of nutrients, more so when your plants are bushy and stuff, and even then its still a pretty moderate amount. what I would do for my first/whatever unexperienced grow, is just water with VERY VERY mild nutrients, and then if you see any deficiencies, correct em, and do it that way. over time you learn how much nutrients the plants really like.

good luck!! and don't worry we all mess up.. i know i did on my first grow many many times and still came out with great product
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