the light is a 65 CFL. I have germinated and veg staged w those lights for months. The bulb is about 10 inches off the plants, I had it closer but then they started to wilt down. I have started more seeds in RW only, will wait until roots peek before going to cups this time. I have cut a small drain hole near the bottoms of the cups and re-watered w PH bal water only to make sure they were all the same moisture. they have really not stretched after the initial, maybe the pics make them look huge but they are only a few inches. IDK, im scrapping the auto's if this doesnt work and hoping to get lucky w some decent fem seeds I have to clone off of. Will try pics again tomorrow and see what hapened.

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False.
My cfls burned my plant.
Oh well.
Live and learn.

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shame about hearing something bad about the auto's wanted to try those after my blue cheese

Unexpected. I've never had this happen to me and never heard of any cfl grower actually complain about it, so, as you said... live and learn.

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I had great success w the auto's before but that was when I was using my homemade bubbleponics tote. 10 gal w 6 sites. worked great but I had to take over a whole bathroom, rig up cfl's badly and have a humidifier going 24/7. they worked out great and I would up transplanting to buckets w the whole cup popped out of the lid, huge roots in there!

I need a new way to get seedlings strong though and nobody seems to have a way other than put in paper topwels and (magic music) weeks later u have a bud machine. sorry I need more specifics on what to do exactly. I use Hempy buckets and Hydroton, i have GH nutes and Ph up and down and all the stupid shit I need but no METHOD that works outside of losing a whole bathrom to the process

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Yep i got my plant burned under cfl's after misting.

I thought i was doing them good

set ur ph to 6.2-6.4 . u only need it slightly acidity . i use tap water and it's ph is around 6.4 as a rule .

I just got my 6 site bubbler set up in my bathroom again only this time i was able to give it a cubby area and the humidifier so I can use my shower and sink.. im not sharing my GF bathroom f that! This way if nothing else I can turn the bathroom in a jungle (humidity and warmth) and the seedlings will have all the fresh air they need and a 10 gal bubble res. this Hempy solo cup method seems to be a real shot in the dark regarding moisture and humidity. I will use that cabinet to veg my clones. or harden off the ones that are strong enough to start taking some dry air. Gotta do what I know works or has worked before. cant just try this or that and hope for the best guessing my way thru it. oh Sarcky...my Ph is set to 6.0-6.1 my tapwater is usually about 6.7 so i knock it down a little.

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OK so here is the progress.. bubbler system is on standby in bathroom just need a way to mount some CFL fixtures to a flat wall. I also built a chamber from a tote I had ;aying around and used it as an incubator. 77 degrees at 77% RH inside with plenty of air to exchange. I filled the bottom w water about an inch worth and the whole thing is on top of a heat matt to keep the roots warm and the humidity up. They look no worse than they did in the cups, some actually look beter....the STRETCHING im not concerned with...when I trans into the 1.5 gal bucket I can bury that stem...included is some bud porn from my flowering beauties...THATS what i can do when I get the fuckers far enough to stand on their own! Thats a GWS from Greenhousein front w a CFL as side light and 2 Gigabud From g-13 i had clones from the big bitch amonth ago. they are down to the last 2-3 weeks of flower plus a 40 hour period of darkness prior to chopping. seeds r killing me!

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