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Old 06-23-2009, 12:13 PM
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Using Fox Farm Ocean. Put the seeds in the ground May 1st and due to height restrictions have moved these to 12/12 4 days ago. 30% perilite, 10% vermiculite.

175 wat MH and a 45 wat LED for side lighting.

First the V.K. Growing bushy as hell and was very slow starting. I topped it two and half weeks ago and would not do it again if I had the choice, it was not going to gro too much taller. The leaves feel thin and papery and even the new growth seemed a bit dry today. I used a 24-0-0 maybe a month ago and it was growing lush and healthy. I recently foliar fed with spray and grow and topped with 2 guano's, 10-2-1 and 01-10-.2. I kept telling myself to leave it alone, but I couldn't stop!!!

Auto ak has had those leaf spots for a month and have not progressed. Both plants started very slow, I assume they needed more light so I moved the MH closer and bought the LED for extra and they responded well.

Could be heat, runs 85-87. Computer fan in and out. Out-fan could use an upgrade I suppose. I may have over nuted it, if so my question is how to get some nutes out of a three gallon FF container.

Lastly, did pulling my plants out of darkness for 10 minutes to take pictures just fudge them up?
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quote- "I may have over nuted it, if so my question is how to get some nutes out of a three gallon FF container."

Yeah too much nitrogen looks like. IMO now that your are flowering your might want to do a flush and start in with some phosphorus nutes and some micros.
quote -"Lastly, did pulling my plants out of darkness for 10 minutes to take pictures just fudge them up?"
DOH! yeah don't do that man. You tell us if they fudge lol
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quote- "I may have over nuted it, if so my question is how to get some nutes out of a three gallon FF container."

Yeah too much nitrogen looks like. IMO now that your are flowering your might want to do a flush and start in with some phosphorus nutes and some micros.
quote -"Lastly, did pulling my plants out of darkness for 10 minutes to take pictures just fudge them up?"
DOH! yeah don't do that man. You tell us if they fudge lol

To fudge: verb; To do something violent to your plant to make it become Hermi. To create a fudger.

I think I will heed your advice and go flush my plant now, this post has taken a turn for the worst.
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welcome to Massachusetts. Foridiot is funny, never heard that one.

Rather than me tell you what I did, would you please tell me how YOU would have flushed my plants. Thanks
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welcome to Massachusetts. Foridiot is funny, never heard that one.

Rather than me tell you what I did, would you please tell me how YOU would have flushed my plants. Thanks
Well they say to flush an amount of water through that is equall to 3 times the size of the container. But i probably would not use THAT much in this case. You just want to flush out SOME of the old nitrogen and built up ferts. So, depending on how "loose"your soil is 2 or 3 gallons run through should do the trick. I'd set the PH to 6.5, put the plant in the tub and start pouring it through. Collect some runoff and check the PH of that. Make sure its in the 6's. The last gallon i run through i put a tablspoon of hydrogen peroxide in it. This provides extra oxygen to the roots which just got soaked. I'd then wait a week ( or so, to let it dry out a bit) and then start in with some week flowering nutes high in phosphorus. Or something like that....
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Using Fox Farm Ocean. Put the seeds in the ground May 1st and due to height restrictions have moved these to 12/12 4 days ago. 30% perilite, 10% vermiculite.

175 wat MH and a 45 wat LED for side lighting.

First the V.K. Growing bushy as hell and was very slow starting. I topped it two and half weeks ago and would not do it again if I had the choice, it was not going to gro too much taller. The leaves feel thin and papery and even the new growth seemed a bit dry today. I used a 24-0-0 maybe a month ago and it was growing lush and healthy. I recently foliar fed with spray and grow and topped with 2 guano's, 10-2-1 and 01-10-.2. I kept telling myself to leave it alone, but I couldn't stop!!!

Auto ak has had those leaf spots for a month and have not progressed. Both plants started very slow, I assume they needed more light so I moved the MH closer and bought the LED for extra and they responded well.

Could be heat, runs 85-87. Computer fan in and out. Out-fan could use an upgrade I suppose. I may have over nuted it, if so my question is how to get some nutes out of a three gallon FF container.

Lastly, did pulling my plants out of darkness for 10 minutes to take pictures just fudge them up?
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quote- "I may have over nuted it, if so my question is how to get some nutes out of a three gallon FF container."

Yeah too much nitrogen looks like. IMO now that your are flowering your might want to do a flush and start in with some phosphorus nutes and some micros.
quote -"Lastly, did pulling my plants out of darkness for 10 minutes to take pictures just fudge them up?"
DOH! yeah don't do that man. You tell us if they fudge lol
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Well they say to flush an amount of water through that is equall to 3 times the size of the container. But i probably would not use THAT much in this case. You just want to flush out SOME of the old nitrogen and built up ferts. So, depending on how "loose"your soil is 2 or 3 gallons run through should do the trick. I'd set the PH to 6.5, put the plant in the tub and start pouring it through. Collect some runoff and check the PH of that. Make sure its in the 6's. The last gallon i run through i put a tablspoon of hydrogen peroxide in it. This provides extra oxygen to the roots which just got soaked. I'd then wait a week ( or so, to let it dry out a bit) and then start in with some week flowering nutes high in phosphorus. Or something like that....
Itsgrowinglikeaweed is right on with your issue and the cure, act quickly.

I added up the npk ratios you used and this is what the plants have been getting 35-12-1.01. Good luck. abd over all they really don't look all that bad now but these problems have a way of laying low early and then showing up hard about half way through the flower cycle. Good to get it now.
 

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