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The first thing that i do with any of my plants if they are looking realy ill and there in veg clone has many uneffected clones has you can just incase you can never be too careful.
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yea that link for the waterfarms is awesome...im gunna be interested to see how augmenting my system will effect how stable my ppm and ph readings are...I know since the water will be circulating with the water thats in the control rez they should atleast rise half as fast as they are now which is better than nothing...next monay im also going to use tap water for the new nutrient solution instead of distilled. Some one on another forum said that hydroton is ionized and is trying to bring the solution that is deionized(the distilled water) up to its ph to ionize it...I am not sure exactly how that works but I will let you guys know...besides the fact that its alot of work to keep everything in check right now the plants are doing ALOT better... Ive been using a foliar spray fom Advanced nutrients called VHO(very high output) that increases plant growth and helps the plant get nitrogen and potassium if there is nut lock up in the roots(which there may be hince the little bit of yellow tint)..it seems to be greening them up a bit...sry no pics up yet...later today I will have some for ya
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tyke I didnt quite follow what you were getting at there?
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tyke I didnt quite follow what you were getting at there?
I think tyke was talking about taking clones from an ill plant so you don't lose the strain.
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Hydroton Clay. It's hard finding a nice neutral medium that doesn't leach shit into a system these days isn't it? I'm a coco coir man myself with a totally different set up so what do I really know.

Get access to some rain water if you can. That's the shit I believe. God given.
Try to make your environment as natural as possible, yet extremely counterfeit and better than nature, that's the quest!
Hydroton clay is ph neutral,it is the only medium i am aware of that you do not have to soak first in ph balanced water before use.That is why i went with it instead of the other mediums.
I had the same trouble with my ph going up to the point i had to adjust it every day.I blame it on the nuts more than anything.I have changed my brand of nutes and now do not have that problem.I now start my ph at 5.2 and it does not rise higher than 6.8 before i change my water every two weeks.My tap water is right at 7.1 or 7.2 and i adjust to 5.2 before topping my tanks off.Rain water will have to be adjusted also,ever heard off acid rain.OPH
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tryin to put some pics up...gotta figure it out...had some1 do it for me last time.
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a couple more...there are the 5 feminized jack flash that will hopefully grow some of the best shit ever..
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hmmm so it might be the nutes? well im for sure not changing nutes...these are supposed to be some of the best nutes out there. Even if it means I have to readjust the pH every day Im stickin with what I got. I just ordered some solution that helps dissolve the nutrients and helps the plant take them.

Oh yea I was looking under the buckets today and the roots are bairly hanging the in the resicoir water out from the top bucket theyre sitting in...this should increase their rate of growth significantly cuzz we have a seperate pump thats blowing through air stones in all of them..this is exciting.
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Hey SciensWiz,
Looking at the entire set up pic you need to get all the plants under that hood, and find a 'happy' distance for that 1000w to be from the plants.
I know you've just started correcting things but those little ones are still looking quite stretched and the light looks about 4ft from the plants.
I'ts know it's better to have it slightly to far away than too close when threy're so little but they look like they've been grown under a 25w.
Also the Jack Flash are really stretched so give those little ones more light as well.
I'm going to follow these babies right through cause no one else has grown them here as far as I know and the Jack Flash sounds like 'da shit' from what I've read.
Hope you get your PH sorted. Maybe you can post a separate thread about your PH fluctuations to get some answers?
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yea for the first couple weeks we let them go before you said something about it. I guess its the angle of the pic or something because i just measured it and its exactly at 2' 6" from the top of the plants..should i lower it to 2ft?...also yea the jacks were under 2x 75w cfls for a couple days before we brought them into the 1000w room so the bigger ones did stretch a bit the tallest one is about and inch and a half tall...Should I prop the little guys up a bit to get them closer? i dont want to light bleach them or anything. I moved the plants closer to right under the light here are some better pics of the setup..
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