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Awesome!

If I may impose on your time once again.

How to check roots, 5g bucket.

Two of my plants are looking great and one just isn't doing squat since I transplanted a week ago.
You've oversized the plants in relationship to the pot size.
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:51 PM
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You've oversized the plants in relationship to the pot size.
None of them are over 12" tall though, so 3g should be correct, right? I R confused.

Bugger it. Can I just transplant into a dwc at this time?
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None of them are over 12" tall though, so 3g should be correct, right? I R confused.

Bugger it. Can I just transplant into a dwc at this time?
Go ahead. Sounds like you're gonna jump off into other techniques before understanding the cultural problem.
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Go ahead. Sounds like you're gonna jump off into other techniques before understanding the cultural problem.
Dude, if you don't want to help me just say so and I won't bother you again. No need to be condescending.

I'll try this again. Why is a sickly 12" tall plant too big for a five gallon bucket? What can I do to save this plant?
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:46 PM
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Dude, if you don't want to help me just say so and I won't bother you again. No need to be condescending.

I'll try this again. Why is a sickly 12" tall plant too big for a five gallon bucket? What can I do to save this plant?
That wasn't meant to be condescending. It is a fact that folks jump into something else before perfecting their program. I don't know how many noobs I've seen who have screwed up a soil grow, try to blame it on the soil and then do the "dro" thing only to fail again.

Without knowing your day to day activities I can't advise you on what to do to save that plant. I'm not a mind reader.

A 5 gallon pot will support an 8' tall plant. If I had to guess, you've got a really piss poor root system. Have you inspected it?

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Old 11-08-2009, 03:01 PM
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That wasn't meant to be condescending. It is a fact that folks jump into something else before perfecting their program. I don't know how many noobs I've seen who have screwed up a soil grow, try to blame it on the soil and then do the "dro" thing only to fail again.

Without knowing your day to day activities I can't advise you on what to do to save that plant. I'm not a mind reader.

A 5 gallon pot will support an 8' tall plant. If I had to guess, you've got a really piss poor root system. Have you inspected it?

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I linked you to both of my topics (you likely forgot my question from last week, that plant is one of the two that's doing well) so you would know what I'm doing. Anything else, feel free to ask.

The last topic I linked you to is titled "How to check roots, 5g bucket". I'd like to check the roots, but I don't know how other than to just dig the thing up. I can't get an answer other than "don't do that" or "understand the cultural problem" (which might make sense to someone with experience but it means jack to a newbie, by the way). That's why I want to go to hydro before perfecting this medium. My goal is saving this plant. If you can help, great. If not, just tell me so I can stop bothering you and wasting my time typing. If you can't tell, I'm getting a little frustrated.

I flushed it this morning with straight 75f water.
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:35 PM
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First off, I want to thank you so very much for taking the time to do what you do!

I have read all of this thread and it was one of the best threads I have spent the time to read on this forum!

Your no nonsense, no bull Sht, common sense approach is a breath of fresh air

I also took the time to follow links that you posted, thank you for Jack's Classic info (priceless) link for any that missed it
http://www.jacksclassic.com/index.html

I found a site that I thought qualified as a good botany 101 (place to start for the misguided) and wanted to share it so you could pass it on
http://www.allotment.org.uk/fertiliz...fertilizer.php

there are several links at the bottom of the page to follow

I subscribed to your new tweaks thread, looking forward to it!

I would personally love to see a future myth buster thread from you, though you busted many of them in this thread

things like your opinion on
superthrive
mollases
epsom salt
light cycles
flushing
nutes (salts)
etc.
I just think it would be a great thread, or as one poster said a how to do it right book by Uncle Ben

sorry I don't have a problem at the moment (did in the begining) but now thriving and happy, very green and bushy w/ less than 1/2" internodes
(will be sharing "my story" soon in a journal)

Thanks again and keep on growing
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:49 AM
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First off, I want to thank you so very much for taking the time to do what you do!

I have read all of this thread and it was one of the best threads I have spent the time to read on this forum!

Your no nonsense, no bull Sht, common sense approach is a breath of fresh air
Thanks, it does try my patience sometimes. When it's all said and done, most folks seem to come back to the basics but there are those that keep on trying to find the holy grail in a bottle or a gimmick.

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I also took the time to follow links that you posted, thank you for Jack's Classic info (priceless) link for any that missed it
http://www.jacksclassic.com/index.html
Thanks, I've been posting that link for many years. Of all the Blossom foods, Jack's has the best IMO. It is well designed regarding the N salts ratio, increased Mg, good iron content, etc.

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I found a site that I thought qualified as a good botany 101 (place to start for the misguided) and wanted to share it so you could pass it on
http://www.allotment.org.uk/fertiliz...fertilizer.php

there are several links at the bottom of the page to follow

I subscribed to your new tweaks thread, looking forward to it!
Nice link!

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I would personally love to see a future myth buster thread from you, though you busted many of them in this thread

things like your opinion on
superthrive
mollases
epsom salt
light cycles
flushing
nutes (salts)
etc.
I just think it would be a great thread, or as one poster said a how to do it right book by Uncle Ben
I was going to expound on some of that stuff but not having the flexibility to add and edit here is a deal killer for me. If you have a question about such topics, go to the thread and ask it.

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sorry I don't have a problem at the moment (did in the begining) but now thriving and happy, very green and bushy w/ less than 1/2" internodes
(will be sharing "my story" soon in a journal)

Thanks again and keep on growing
Good luck with your garden!
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:36 AM
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Default water stress? deficiency? overnuting?
Is there a doctor in the house? Like many of the posters here I would first like to say thanks for all of the support you give to growers. Although one person may ask a question, your answers helps the multitudes. Gracious Tio. After a ten year hiatus I decided to pull the equipment out and give it a go. My first observation since dusting off the equipment is how much more complicated things are now. I recently picked up a catalogue from the grow shop and was amazed at the 15 pages of nutrients that were available to a grower. Not to mention the different lamps, ballast,reflectors, controlers, ect, ect,ect...Anyhow I am about a month into things and they have been going fairly well (at least I think so) up until recently. Seems like growth has slowed and there is also signs of either a deficiency, over nuting, or some kind of water stress. Can you please take a look at my pictures and ask me some questions. I can't seem to diagnose the problem. Thanks in advance.
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Is there a doctor in the house? Like many of the posters here I would first like to say thanks for all of the support you give to growers. Although one person may ask a question, your answers helps the multitudes. Gracious Tio. After a ten year hiatus I decided to pull the equipment out and give it a go. My first observation since dusting off the equipment is how much more complicated things are now. I recently picked up a catalogue from the grow shop and was amazed at the 15 pages of nutrients that were available to a grower. Not to mention the different lamps, ballast,reflectors, controlers, ect, ect,ect...
It's all about the money. I don't get caught up in all that nonsense.

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Anyhow I am about a month into things and they have been going fairly well (at least I think so) up until recently. Seems like growth has slowed and there is also signs of either a deficiency, over nuting, or some kind of water stress. Can you please take a look at my pictures and ask me some questions. I can't seem to diagnose the problem. Thanks in advance.
What fertilizer have you been giving them, and puhleeeeese don't give me a product name, give me the analysis, frequency of application, nutrient charge in the soil, etc.

Overall they look damn good to me! I do pick up on the beginning of leaf necrosis, the copper colored dots.

Welcome back,
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