Hey guys, thanks for the responses! I had posted a few days ago in my journal that i had came home from skool one afternoon and noticed my plants were close to the lights, about 2 inches away, i thought immediatly heat burn! but upon furthur inspection, i have read through the soil i have, and it does contain time release ferts. Im not using mg soil, but some soil made by shultz. Is it too early to transplant out of this soil into new? i have to put the ladies in new pots soon, and was debating weather to do this now or wait till the weekend when i begin veg. Will transplanting now cause more stress to these ladies? i have delt with high heat issues, almost 90's, and have finally sorted this problem out.
Thanks again for the information and clarification, i have had a few conflicting reports and just wanted to be sure.

2" away from what kind of lights? More than likely it is heat burn, a temperature issue which was my first call.

They use an encapsulated, long term, COMPLETE food that I use commercially called Polyon. Little blue pellets with a few grays and greens, right? It is a top quality food and Schultz is an excellent brand at a fair price. Plants flourish getting slow release food, and you won't get any better results than with this food.

Upcan into the same soil if need be.

Why?

1. bingo!

2. You are poised to make matters worse. Don't worry about a few scorched leaves, they will have NO impact on your final results. Only upcan if your faves are rootbound and showing signs of less vigor/growth also reflected by the need to water often. They sure don't look like they're ready for larger pots to me. Let them go another 2 or 3 nodes unless you have alot of roots growing out of the drainholes.



Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. IOW, conflicting reports are par for the course around here. The sooner you understand what makes a plant tick, the sooner you'll be empowered to know what's right and what's wrong and take the correct action for your garden.

Good luck,
UB

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Uncle ben, thanks again for the response, you probably dont need the rep but you will be getting some!
You say this leaf scorching wont effect my final results? over the days it seems to be getting worse, and im beginning to see it on the other girls as well, just on the original leaves, the new sprouts are coming up almost daily and look healthy (my opinion)
I will let them go longer before i re pot them into bigger pots. I also was looking at lst when the time comes and a topping method to overall increase my yeild in my small grow cab, im using cfls by the way, about 3 right now.

Would mixing some shultz soil with some organic give the girls a lil break on the time release ferts? Due to the small restrictions in my grow cab ive been running the lights 24/7 trying to build strong roots, and i check on them around the same time daily, only to find out the soil is very dry and light compared to after i water. Im worried that due to watering every day this is giving off more and more ferts and would hurt/ make my problem worse.

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Thanks for the kind thoughts, but homie don't play that game.

Of course not. Now, if you can keep that leaf till harvest, then you're a better man than 99.9% of growers around here.

No, what makes you think it will?

The slow release fertilizer is designed not to create salts burn. If you have to water quite often, then indeed it might be time to upcan. Pop one out and look-see. If you don't have root spinout, then put it back in and give it a bit more time. This is only way you will get educated regarding choosing the optimum time to upcan a plant.

Good luck,
UB

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I never thanked you for the last correspondence, so thank you. I've been attempting to read as much literature as possible on plant nutrition, revisiting some gen bio, as well as some botany.

I wanted to ask you one question regarding CO2. You previously stated that it was 'Waste of time'. Would you kindly elaborate on what you mean by this? Waste of time for someone who is in my situation? OR Waste of time, period. If so, could you explain why?

Also, do you personally only use the time release soil for nutrient supplementation? Do you use something else in addition?

As always, I appreciate your insight.

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hey uncle ben.

i like your style. you fly low on the radar and above all the bullshit. i'm not going to give you +rep, but i will let you know that you have steered me in the right direction and i have much respect for you.

i was not going to post. i already did what i did and there's no going back.

ok so here's the scenario, the "incident" happened three days ago

i topped a couple weeks ago using your wonderful method. i made only one snip but not one cut. i realized that i had cut off where my fourth top would have come in. No biggie, i can deal with three (as opposed to one ).

a couple days ago i was planning on slightly tying down (i'm more just suggesting that the plant grow here as opposed to there) in my space. upon executing said plan i got a bit overzealous and snapped a top

Instantly, and i mean this response was less than thirty seconds, the leaf pair above the break wilted, twisted and sat limp. Fortunately, the break was not complete and i have "set" it very gently with tape and toothpicks (can you tell i'm gonna be a doctor?). i had no idea what to do but knew i had to act quick. what i did seems to have worked. what i mean by this is that the tissue above the break still looks good and green, aside from the one node directly above the break.

i know your opinion of folliage cutting and before this incident have never cut anything off my plant (except for the top(and the extra)). But seriously, this leaf pair looked pathetic. i didn't touch them at all and they shriveled and dried out. so today i took the razor and sliced them off.

i should have just waited for them to fall off huh? i remember you mentioning carbon indicators and energy stores within the leaf. i didn't want to cut them but they were completely dry and i felt that they were useless.

one last, interesting note. although the tissue above the "fuck up" looks like its not dying, the nodes below it are acting like i topped it even though the top is still on. its acting like the auxins were redistributed, but the top is on and auxins come from the top. or maybe the top really did get severed and isn't functioning for the plant anymore and will die soon...

i'd love to hear what you think is going on... i'm really not too worried because everything has looked basically pretty good the whole grow


Edit: hahahaha uncle ben. My stoned ass just realized that i probably should have posted this in your thread on topping. But i hope it doesn't matter much because it seems that this thread has turned into a general help forum!

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You're welcome, and regarding the CO2, I think you need to do the basics before jumping off into CO2. That's more money, you should meter it and those meters aren't cheap, etc. CO2 if fine, if you don't ignore the caveats. Fresh air and good air movement will go a long way towards raising good plants.

Let's get into my philosophy and some basics, plants do better with a little over a long period of time than a big hit. That not only goes for food but light. Moderate light over a longer period of time is much better regarding photosynthesis and plant health/vigor than high light for short period of time. Outdoors, morning sun is better than late afternoon.

I combine organic and synthetic plant foods to get to where I want to go. The organics (blood/bone meal), compost, peat provide slow release salts, the stuff in a box provides a convenient tweek. Speaking of tweeks, I put together a draft of my tweeks and then stopped after I found out that the thread starter is locked out of editing his starting post after a few days. If I can't add and revise, I'll not get too enthused. However, I'll soon post what I started.

Thanks man! I appreciate the thoughts and welcome to the thread.

A clean break is not repairable. You're lucky to be able to put a splint on it.

If they're not functional then do what you have to do. I wouldn't sweat it.

I doubt if you'll get the 4 main colas, rules have changed here. Let us know how it turns out.

Good luck,
UB

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Just started a tweek thread FWIW.

Uncle Ben's gardening tweeks and pointers

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Awesome!

If I may impose on your time once again.

How to check roots, 5g bucket.

Two of my plants are looking great and one just isn't doing squat since I transplanted a week ago.

thanks tio! i just wanted to clarify some things....

this plant was topped three weeks ago. it has three nice sized colas on it and multiple smaller ones. a couple days ago i was tying down one of the main colas it snapped a couple nodes down from the top. so, after supporting it, i've noticed explosive growth on the two nodes below the break.

so one of the colas that i got from topping has been "semi topped". i'll take some pics and post them later on.

once again uncle ben, we all appreciate the enormous contributions that you've made here.

what i would give to sit down and converse with you over a bottle of wine, blunts and a good board game

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