You'll have abundant foliage, a very healthy looking plant and the pot will need watering often. The condition and mass of the foliage pretty much indicates the same regarding the root system's condition.

tryinghard, thanks bro. It's helped out alot of people over the years. It's pretty basic stuff but sometimes we lose sight of the forest for the trees.

UB

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I don't see any symptoms of too much light. Me? I keep my leaves alot greener than that VVV but your light medium green leaves aren't really a problem. Not now anyway. Problems start when folks hit them during flowering with N deficient (high P) foods.



Water when the pot feels light to the lift, but before it starts showing moisture stress (droopy leaves).

What's the makeup of your mix, soil and hydroton on top? Why the hydroton and what kind of soil are you using? What's its structure like, open or tight?

UB

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hey UNC i gotta give credit where credits due,,,, and like u said its helped many people over the years i am sure, and 3 years from now it will still be helping thx 2 people like you,,, hell sometimes it feels like i completely left the forest let alone lose sight of it,,,peace

Yeah, it's all about botany and using common sense. It's when you stray from the common sense part of growing this weed that things can (and will) go south on ya.

Thanks for the kind words. I've got something up my sleeve regarding putting together 40 years of tweeks learned at the School of Hard Knocks. Stay tuned.

Tio Bendejo

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UB, What do you think is wrong with this plant? I had sprayed neem oil the day before, and after I woke up and the lights turn on, they were like this. I thought it would go away in a day, buit it didnt.

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my soil is made up of 1/6 vercumilite, and 5/6 potting soil, kinda tight soil. i also mixed in the hydroton into the mix before filling my pots for extra air in the soil. the hydroton on top is to help keep some moisture in the soil. last crop i used the same pots and plants vegged for the same amount of time and the lights were baking the promix hp and drying it out too quick.

my grow before the last one i used dr scultz pro potting soil with time release ferts and my plants turned out amazing so i tryed to make a simular soil for this grow except i mixxed it myself to save some money, which i dont think ill ever do again,, promix hp it is for me....

thanks

It appears that the neem oil product burned them (drew moisture out of the leaf tissue), most likely the carrier was the culprit. Safer Soaps are notorious for doing that, reason why I won't use 'em. The damage has been done, and most likely those leaves will not recover. Might have to put it behind you and focus on the condition of the new growth only. You could always blast them with some distilled or rain water and see if that helps.

canadiancracker, using hydroton to open up a soil is like dropping a handful of marbles in a big bag of flour. Use vermiculite and perlite to open up your soils and save your money regarding the hydroton. Or if you're skittish about overwatering, use a 1" layer of the hydroton in the bottom of the pot.

I am a commercial grower (farmer of niche crops) and use a slow release fertilizer on everything, we're talkin' thousands of plant material. It's an excellent way to provide plants with what they really like, a slow release source of food on a continuous basis. If those encapsulated granules were green, then you have a Polyon, a Harrell plant food product which I buy in 50 lb. bags. I believe that is what Schultz uses. DO mix your own custom soil, just add some slow release foods like blood and bone meal and Osmocote or any other encapsulated slow release food.

Good luck,
UB

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great advice im stressing over plants(1st GROW) some info seems to contradict other pros that are trying to help but from my experiance your info seems more logical.....maybe logic doesnt produce more bigger buds I have been over waterig/fertin and when i chill and be patient things look better Lord im an impatient bastard especially when im smokin schwag and waitin for my grow to finish GOD BLESS RIU PEOPLE

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IT REALY SUCKS THAT SOME PEOPLE WIG AND HOLD IT AGAINST ME FOR TRYING TO GROW A STASH THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND

That's a natural newbie response, you're apprehensive and fear of the unknown will getcha by the cajones every time. Just keep it simple and grow your plants like you would tomatoes. Remember, pot is a weed and where folks screw it up is by overdoing things.

Less is more.

My info is based on many years of experience and botany. I don't subscribe to most of the cannabis forum paradigms, snake oils and rocket fuels.....there's too much voodoo majic in this biz and it doesn't have to be that way. If folks would stop glamorizing and romanicizing weed and stop treating it with some wacked out air of mystique, they would have better results. Just grow the frickin' weed and be done with it.

Not to toot my horn, but I'm known for producing only big, chunky colas...when it comes to hybrids. Sativas are a different matter and tend to be airy, fluffy type buds but I do well with those indoors too such as old Mex, Zamal, O. Haze, etc. Here's a link which reveals not only typical nugs I grow but the speed and vigor you'll see in my gardens. Check out the health and color on one of my crosses, a male that I destroyed. That's the kind of plant health and color you should aim for. http://www.drugs-forum.com/growfaq/1321.htm

Like I said, "less is more". Learn to read your plants, they will tell you when it's time to water, when they need more or LESS light, etc. It's a balancing act regarding all of the cultural variables and factors.

Good luck,
UB

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UB, I just checked out that link. Do you recommend using that spinout spray? Also, do you have any personal experience with feminized seeds? Im growing one, and there have been some light cycle moments when the timer wasnt working properly, as well as some potential light leaks coming from my mothering chamber, and I hear all these horror stories about feminized seeds turning hermie. WHen they DO go hermie, is it the entire plant? Or one branch? Ive also taken some clones from this mother. Do I need to toss them immediatly if I find that the mother has turned hermie?