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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ben View Post
    Just some thoughts and observations.

    1. You guys need to learn what makes a plant tick. Which means if this your first time at growing indoor plants, it will show as such.

    2. Do not use a paper towel to germinate. Germinate directly in soil using pots that are at least 6" tall.

    3. Give them plenty of water. Incorporating organics like blood meal and bone meal is good.

    4. Don't worry about pH and RH. Cannabis is pH tolerant regarding elemental uptake and RH is irrelevant if you have a decent root system.

    5. It's all in the balance. If you understand that balance, this is the results you should expect. Note the lighting, temps, etc. - http://www.rollitup.org/general-mari...t-pruning.html By week 3, my plants required watering twice a day, and when I water, I drench until there is a lot of free runoff.

    6. Cannabis forums are the worst places to lurk if you truly want to learn how to garden. Apply your papa's tomato techniques and you'll be fine. Apply cannabis forum techniques and you will surely screw the whole thing up.

    Good luck,
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    I crack my seeds in shallow tap water. It takes about 48 hours or less for them to pop and then I transplant them them into their medium. The thing that weirds me out is with any other plant I would use the standard technique you mentioned. I think you just inspired me to stop being a weirdo and crack my next batch the same way I would do with any seed! Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ben View Post
    Yep, never stress a plant due to a lack of moisture, plus it ruins the soil structure. When plants lack moisture, it stunts them as carbo production is compromised.
    Amen! A LOT of people are telling growers that causing stress by not watering explodes growth. I know one thing-a sad shrunken, brown dead root ball is not going to produce more flowers!

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    If folks would observe normal plant culture, done by normal (typical) gardeners, they might get some where. I've never witnessed so many ways to fuck up a simple flowering foliage plant like I have in these forums. Good example: "A LOT of people are telling growers that causing stress by not watering explodes growth." They don't know what in the hell they're doing. It's the blind leading the blind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ben View Post
    If folks would observe normal plant culture, done by normal (typical) gardeners, they might get some where. I've never so many ways to fuck up a simple flowering foliage plant like I have in these forums. Good example: "A LOT of people are telling growers that causing stress by not watering explodes growth." They don't know what in the hell they're doing. It's the blind leading the blind.
    What i have found out is that there definetly is improvement in growth when you let your pots dry out sufficiently enough in soil. I use some 7 gal pots and i go about 4-5 days between waterings. That seems to be their sweet spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ben View Post
    Just some thoughts and observations.

    1. You guys need to learn what makes a plant tick. Which means if this your first time at growing indoor plants, it will show as such.

    2. Do not use a paper towel to germinate. Germinate directly in soil using pots that are at least 6" tall.

    3. Give them plenty of water. Incorporating organics like blood meal and bone meal is good.

    4. Don't worry about pH and RH. Cannabis is pH tolerant regarding elemental uptake and RH is irrelevant if you have a decent root system.

    5. It's all in the balance. If you understand that balance, this is the results you should expect. Note the lighting, temps, etc. - http://www.rollitup.org/general-mari...t-pruning.html By week 3, my plants required watering twice a day, and when I water, I drench until there is a lot of free runoff.

    6. Cannabis forums are the worst places to lurk if you truly want to learn how to garden. Apply your papa's tomato techniques and you'll be fine. Apply cannabis forum techniques and you will surely screw the whole thing up.

    Good luck,
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    Hey, what would you recommend for the amount of blood and bone meal to put in the soil for seedlings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Almighty Jew View Post
    Hey, what would you recommend for the amount of blood and bone meal to put in the soil for seedlings?
    Oh......about 2 Tblsp. each in 10 gallons of soil. Watch blood meal. For an organic it is pretty quick acting and can be 'hot'.

    Everything about gardening is finding the right balance. A plant will grow fastest with a consistent supply of moisture at its roots, and nutrients. That's pure science.

    The cannabis forum paradigm of wet/dry cycles you read about is hearsay, it's wrong, and parroted by folks that don't know what they're doing....who often have been burned (by their own hand) because they kept their soil too wet which induced a decaying root system. So, they become gun shy and warn folks to let their pots dry out between watering. Fine, just stunt the plant and create soil structure problems.

    It's all relative to the amount of wicking action of the foliage. If you go 4-5 days between waterings, then you have cultural issues, too large a pot for the limited bulk of your roots and foliage. Indoors I used to water 5 gallon pots TWICE a day with at least one quart of water each time from 4 weeks veg on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ben View Post
    Oh......about 2 Tblsp. each in 10 gallons of soil. Watch blood meal. For an organic it is pretty quick acting and can be 'hot'.

    Everything about gardening is finding the right balance. A plant will grow fastest with a consistent supply of moisture at its roots, and nutrients. That's pure science.

    The cannabis forum paradigm of wet/dry cycles you read about is hearsay, it's wrong, and parroted by folks that don't know what they're doing....who often have been burned (by their own hand) because they kept their soil too wet which induced a decaying root system. So, they become gun shy and warn folks to let their pots dry out between watering. Fine, just stunt the plant and create soil structure problems.

    It's all relative to the amount of wicking action of the foliage. If you go 4-5 days between waterings, then you have cultural issues, too large a pot for the limited bulk of your roots and foliage. Indoors I used to water 5 gallon pots TWICE a day with at least one quart of water each time from 4 weeks veg on.

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    Wow are you joking me???? I have cultural issues. Yea my ballsack has cultural issues. I get at least 20 oz per 1000 watt light and my lbs go for no less than $3700 each. That does not happen for no reason my friend. I let my pots dry out untill they get kinda light. Many experts recommend to do it that way. However they are always variables with diffrent strains.
    Continue to do it your way. It seems like a lot of pointless back breaking effort but hey whatever works for you. I like the convenience and luscious growth i get by waterig every 4-5 days in 7 gal pots.. However i have taken note to what your saying and now im thinking that an automatic drip/water system might be a pretty good idea. Also some days i might consider watering every 2-3 days instead of 4. also i appreciate the help with the other stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Almighty Jew View Post
    Wow are you joking me???? I have cultural issues. Yea my ballsack has cultural issues. I get at least 20 oz per 1000 watt light and my lbs go for no less than $3700 each. That does not happen for no reason my friend. I let my pots dry out untill they get kinda light. Many experts recommend to do it that way. However they are always variables with diffrent strains.
    Continue to do it your way. It seems like a lot of pointless back breaking effort but hey whatever works for you. I like the convenience and luscious growth i get by waterig every 4-5 days in 7 gal pots.. However i have taken note to what your saying and now im thinking that an automatic drip/water system might be a pretty good idea. Also some days i might consider watering every 2-3 days instead of 4. also i appreciate the help with the other stuff.
    I think i spoke too quick.. Im a noob to 7 gal pots. I usually use 3 gal. Uncle Ben your right, 4-5 days is too long. im thinking 2-3 days is about right....
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    my leaves are cupping as well but im not over watering?? they are curling down like claws. i let the pots dry out like 3 days and they were bone dry so i HAD to water them. but the cupping has not changed. HELP
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    Quote Originally Posted by graab187 View Post
    my leaves are cupping as well but im not over watering?? they are curling down like claws. i let the pots dry out like 3 days and they were bone dry so i HAD to water them. but the cupping has not changed. HELP
    This is a water issue. This is an underwatering issue. You have excess salt buildup in your media, so even when you water, it takes days for you plants to take up water because of the salt build up. During Flower do not let your pots run dry or your yield will suffer. You might also be over fertilizing.

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