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Old 10-02-2008, 11:29 PM
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Ok I know this is alot to digest but I figure more info better responce inregards to helping me!

I started these in paper towel they germ. for two days. I picked out the best 32 and started 4 trays of 8 in peat cups (apartments) with Mirical Grow Poting Mix and Rock at bottom for drainage.

Two weeks of natural sun light which I might add was only 5 hours of direct light and another 4 or 5 of indirect and the only light they have been getting and in that same time I watered everyother day and ferted 4 times (mostly folar) with regular Mirical Grow Plant Food at 50%.

After a total of 4 weeks I went and turned my storage shed in to their what I like to call HOME. I got 12 CFL 23w 6500K and rigged up a light rack with chain and hooks so I could move it! The bulbs are 3 to 4 inches from tops and two bulbs per plant. Temp has gotten to 90 degs. but not for longer than 4 hours usually from 85 at day and down to 65 during the night. The humidity ranges from 50%to 70%. I also got four 5 gallon buckets. Drilled holes, did the rock on bottom and mirical grow soil, picked out the 4 best looking ones took them out of the peat cup and planted them into the buckets. The rest I planted in to 2.5 quart pots with the peat cup still around them. I thought I was over watering was spraying leaves two or three times a day in small amounts. A friends that is older and has grown more veggies than me (no bud exp) said it looked like they were in need of water so I soaked the soil until it dripped out the bottom of the 5 gallon buckets and the smaller pots its been. Two days ago and now I have these issues one (The YELLOW lighting bolts is the older issue ((curling down of leaves)) the RED Arrows is the new issue((the white/yellow spots that turn in to holes))))

Please help with any and all information about what I maybe doing wrong!

The tallest plant is 11 inches and that is 6 weeks from being planted after germ. The average is about 7 - 9 inches but a couple are only 5.

****Also I had one of the plants in the five gallon bucket produce seed pods already I took it out and replaced it with the best looking one that was in the 2.5 pots. I noticed this about a week after I put them in the new house. To me that means that have moved into flowering already because of the short natural light period they had to start? Is this wrong?

I will admit I have not kept good record of watering or feeding of plants.
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Old 10-03-2008, 01:52 AM
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ALso the more I read the soil tester I have is crap! Its the kind where you put the soil in add water and mix with tables. What is a decent, better and best way to check ph and maintain.

ALso ALso, I want to THANK ANYONE IN ADVANCE THAT VIEWS AND RESPONDS WITH SOUND ADVICE!
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:14 AM
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I've seen some people complain about certain MG soils as they release nutes every time you water. I wonder if your soaking released a whole bunch (if that's the same soil as you have).

Total nub here too (with my own issues lol) so that's all I can offer. Good luck.
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Old 10-03-2008, 04:09 PM
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UPDATE: It is getting worse and I haven't attempted anything. The leaves of a few are curling up, a few are curling down and now the spots are turing in to holes.

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Old 10-03-2008, 04:15 PM
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So wierd how things (the grow) can go so great for so long and turn so bad so quick..... Good luck guy, I know the feeling. Advice? shit I seldom take my own....
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Red face Updated photos!!!! Please someone thats elite, help!!!!
Photo or kids today, they look worse, what should i do? I didn't point issues out this time, in hopes that total health would be taken in to consideration!
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check the airflow and maybe the ph. it should be between 5-6. if there are nutes in the soil then it's hard to flush them out. check and see whats in the plant problems section there might be sumthing similar
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:42 PM
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Ok well alot has happened since i posted at first!

The kids are now under 483w and a heater to keep warm. I am still debating on 2 150hps as I know they will become even more dense. Watering fine switched Distilled water (low 6.0 ph) no more issues with ph flux. also to MG Super Bloom, adding 1 tbl of molasase and 1tbl of hydrogen proxide 3% every watering. Started 12/12 about 10days ago. Down to 6 kids, 3 i know are female and I figure are indicia mostly, the last 3 i figure are mostly sativa because of slow signs of either male or female. Also the males showed quickly and ironicly were the smallest of the the surivors! I am hoping for only one more male but none would be great too! I started some CO2 ((yeast - one pack , sugar (2.5 cups in 5 cups of water), 1tbl molasase, 4 drops of vinigar as I read it will last longer with acidic ph and food (molassase) sugar isn't food it's more like meth to the yeast beast))

I have attached some photos before the switch! I will take some tonight or tomorrow and show you the new stuff!
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Cool Just IRONIC! ??????
Well all is well but me and the only other person to know(my alter ego) relized that. I started with 32 (natural sun) narrowed then down to 16 when I relised that, that was going to be way too many! Then 11 when I got my room set up! I gave two away, so now we are at 9 that I flowered. Out of those 9 I got 6, yes 6 females. THats' better than natures 50% rule actually 16% better than nature and I am all about it. No especial treatment to make them female (if there even are wayS), if any thing i was very rough on them as they were moved mulitplue time a day when they were in the natural sunlight as i had alot of shadows in my back yard and I thought i had to be direct light. Well still no photos and not much up date!

Girls As we now reffer to them are 15 days into flower and I am still waiting on one to show signs but yes I am counting it as a female already. I think its a mainly sativa since its been two weeks and still nothing a male would have shown signs already. my friend thinks that it will be the best out of them all but it is the tinyest. I promise i will get photos. I will try to take some monday when I get my camera back!

OH the yeast was a total hassel! At first there was too much liquid in the bottle and the bubbley foam it produced dripped all over my babies! I quickly got h2o and flushed the sites but I wonder if it will come back to haunt me with some type of but rot or fungus? I hope to find a small tank but its not a major concern I am more curious if I should spend the 55 bucks and get 2 - 150w hps so that these buds will be dense or should i spend it on somemore CFL and do some side lighting? ANy ideas! I know its my first but I want dense buds!
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if thats what you can afford then go for it.
but for the amount of plants you have you are looking for more like 400watt
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