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Old 09-10-2009, 07:25 PM
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Good shit, look at everything else obamas done, you think he was really going to help the medical OR pothead crowd? He made promises to get elected, same old tactics, except everyone thought he was the messiah.

Hell he has even made it effective in weeks or less putting a ban on flavored tobacco (not wraps) but alot of gars and so on, and NOTHING with clove in it is allowed either.

You Bush haters look out, you got a whole new person to think about now..... we all do....
Just wanted to set one thing straight. THE FDA put a ban on flavored tobacco, not OBAMA. Obama has nothing to do with it, all he did was sign the bill (that someone else wrote, mind you) giving the FDA the power to regulate tobacco.

What surprises me is that most people don't realize how little power the president actually has when it comes to delivering on his "campaign promises". He's basically a figurehead. Congress writes and passes the laws. All the president can do is try to influence them to write laws that coincide with his policies and ideals, so he can put his signature on them.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:31 PM
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Just wanted to set one thing straight. THE FDA put a ban on flavored tobacco, not OBAMA. Obama has nothing to do with it, all he did was sign the bill (that someone else wrote, mind you) giving the FDA the power to regulate tobacco.

What surprises me is that most people don't realize how little power the president actually has when it comes to delivering on his "campaign promises". He's basically a figurehead. Congress writes and passes the laws. All the president can do is try to influence them to write laws that coincide with his policies and ideals, so he can put his signature on them.

yea i always thought that. i never believe the president cause he really doesnt have power anymore. Hes more of a publicity stunt now.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:36 PM
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Just wanted to set one thing straight. THE FDA put a ban on flavored tobacco, not OBAMA. Obama has nothing to do with it, all he did was sign the bill (that someone else wrote, mind you) giving the FDA the power to regulate tobacco.

What surprises me is that most people don't realize how little power the president actually has when it comes to delivering on his "campaign promises". He's basically a figurehead. Congress writes and passes the laws. All the president can do is try to influence them to write laws that coincide with his policies and ideals, so he can put his signature on them.
My bad, he allowed it none the less.
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DEA pot raids go on; Obama opposes

President vowed to end policy

Just goes to show what Obama's word is worth. Nothing

But at least the media is reporting this travesty
i say give the man a little breathing room. the Obama administration pledged to stop the federal government from interfering in states with medical marijuana laws as soon as they can appoint a new head of the DEA.
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i say give the man a little breathing room. the Obama administration pledged to stop the federal government from interfering in states with medical marijuana laws as soon as they can appoint a new head of the DEA.
no we wont give him any breathing room, he has lied about everything he told us during the campaign...including his stance on medical marijuana...many people voted for him including me and now im regretting voting at all, the presidency doesn't mean shit just like DoobVA above me said...its a dog and pony show, shit all politics is.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:10 PM
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no we wont give him any breathing room, he has lied about everything he told us during the campaign...including his stance on medical marijuana...many people voted for him including me and now im regretting voting at all, the presidency doesn't mean shit just like DoobVA above me said...its a dog and pony show, shit all politics is.
Nicelly said Bud! Well other than u voted for him, but it's ok ur vote didn't help him any.

I was saying back then "yea sure you will" when he claimed to make laws more lenient on weed and stop raids on legal users.

Ohh well like any of us, US as a nation will have to learn from this awful mistake. Hopefully...
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thats why i didnt vote, cause it doesnt matter. the only thing we can do it have huge protests like the blacks and women. other then that were stuck in a congress dictatorship. what makes me pissed is most of the government officials are old fucks who need to go to the retirement home and stop messing up our government.

they bring us into debt
they all hate weed
they break the laws by raiding us

we need a whole new government staff
let our generation run stuff, instead they are gonna mess up our government and die off leaving it with us.

btw im 19 so thats my generation the younger guys.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:12 PM
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Yup I didn't vote either, but hang on now man someone will say "didn't vote, don't bitch".
Well go ahead and I will fire back with "Fuck you I pay my taxes, I'll bitch all I want".
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:13 PM
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and make weed legal for me to grow and I'd pay my gonja taxes just the same.
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It's easy to see now why the Dem's are afraid of gun ownership amongst the citizens.....
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