Originally Posted by misshestermoffitt

Are you not aware that all in industries that I mentioned make their stuff OVERSEAS as in not in America. If we opened up all these industires here in america, think of all those jobs. If we opened all those industries here in america someone here in america would be needing to grow what was needed to be used.

Originally Posted by misshestermoffitt

Plastics made of hemp do not pollute during their making, the don't poison you while you use them and they are biodegradable. When was the last time you could say that about a pertochemical based plastic.

Originally Posted by misshestermoffitt

Henry Ford made a car where 70% of the car was made out of hemp based plastics and the car ran on hemp based fuel. Back in I think it was 2004, a hemp powered car drove around the US.

Originally Posted by misshestermoffitt

Ignoring the solutions does not make them any less viable.

Originally Posted by tasteskindasalty

First, I've ever said I was against legalization...never once. I've only said that I don't believe legalization of marijuana will help the economy. End of story there.


Wrong. Legalization would allow you to grow your own marijuana legally. How many people do you know that grow tomatoes, tobacco, grapes, apples, cotton...and on and on...and turn a profit. I'm betting zero. Why, because those people grow as a hobby. Profits are made by large farmers who own large pieces of land and have the resources to grow large crops. Legalizing marijuana would prompt the same thing to happen. A few large land owners would produce the majority of the marijuana sold. You think Amsterdam gets its marijuana from a bunch of people growing in their backyard lol. Heck no, they get it from professional growers, with professional equipment, who overpower small growers with their prices.


First of all, almost every major city has already made smoking illegal in clubs, bars, and restaurants. You can't legalize smoking there because then the cigarette smokers would be upset. You can't legalize both because then the nonsmokers would be upset. Sure, a few businesses might pop up, but thats hardly a case to legalize it.


So wait, you'd be creating jobs by removing jobs? How does that solve anything?


How does this create more jobs though? This is my point, what does the legalization of marijuana do to help the economy. Last I checked, the plastics industry isn't hurting, so how does this help? Sure, there are TONS of materials in the world that can replace other materials, but what does that prove? How does this help the economy?


Again, so what. You've introduced a new food into our grocery stores. So in the peanut area there will be "hemp seeds". Again, big deal. Sure, great product, but its like adding a new kind of pretzel, big deal.


Again...sigh...replacing one with another. What does that do?



All you did was show was uses the marijuana plant has...big deal. I already knew that. And your points are this...turn the plastics industry into a marijuana industry. Turn the cotton industry into a marijuana industry. What does that do? Our economy isn't in the dump because of those industries. marijuana as a fuel source, then you can start talking. Otherwise, exchanging one material for another does absolutely nothing.

I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. Legalize it! But legalize it because its not a dangerous drug, calms people's nerves, or can be used to help people with illnesses. Legalize it because its less dangerous than a night of hard drinking. Legalize it because it doesn't have the addictive qualities of cigarettes.


Make a case that it should be legal because it would help the economy...that's where I save BS.

Originally Posted by the beekeepers

Originally Posted by tasteskindasalty

Several billion I know, but that encompasses a lot. The number exclusively in regards to marijuana, probably a lot too. Last number I remember hearing was on average about twenty billion gets spent TOTAL every year. But that means everything, not just marijuana.

Still, you can pinpoint hundreds of areas that have had money spent poorly...not just marijuana. Say you have this bucket of water with hundreds of tiny holes representing every problem. What does plugging one hole solve, nothing. Legalize marijuana (while I 100% support it) won't help the economy. There are bigger holes to plug, such as our education system, poor management of unions, healthcare, morgages, banks...and the list goes on and on. Sure, I'd love to have the legalization of marijuana, but saying it will help the economy isn't one of the reasons I support it.

The fundamental reason we are in a recession is a titanic collapse of the financial system specifically involving the housing market and the overvaluing of mortgages. Legalizing marijuana would not make a noticeable dent in solving that.