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    This issue is a big one for legalization. I think it can be solved, but you can expect the anti-legalization propaganda machine to beat this issue to death.

    Personally, while I agree that driving drunk on alcohol is MUCH worse than driving stoned, I think stoned drivers ought to be arrested on DUI charges just like their boozing buddies.

    http://news.yahoo.com/stoned-driving...140128819.html

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    But based on current testing methods you would be found just as guilty as the stoned person if you are tested.

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    ~~~> http://norml.org/library/item/mariju...tific-evidence

    ~~~> http://marijuanaevaluations.wordpres...g-performance/

    Lots of studies that say it doesn't impair driving enough and for those it does they are aware of this and over compensate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruenoAE86coupe View Post
    But based on current testing methods you would be found just as guilty as the stoned person if you are tested.
    I know, and that is the big problem: How does law enforcement test for current intoxication?

    If cannabis is ever to be legalized, the general public has to buy into the idea and vote for it. If the general public believes that carnage on the highways is the likely outcome of cannabis legalization, they will vote against it.

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    I think that if we all want marijuana legalized, at least I know I do, we have to be prepared to deal with certain restrictions and guidelines when driving, just like when drinking. I think that drinking and driving is usually worse than smoking and driving but I know there have been times when I should not have driven because I was too high. I don't know exactly what technology will be used or invented to do real-time time impairment testing, but I think a field sobriety test could suffice until said technology is ready. I know field sobriety tests are not 100% fool proof and have to be backed up by either a blood or breathalyzer test, but at least they could tell if someone was so stoned they couldn't concentrate or stop laughing, etc. Just my two cents, but I am ready to deal with these things if it is legalized.

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    Well we (Colorado) and Washington are putting that to the test this election year!!!
    Can't wait to see the propaganda on this one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by berkman858 View Post
    I think that if we all want marijuana legalized, at least I know I do, we have to be prepared to deal with certain restrictions and guidelines when driving, just like when drinking. I think that drinking and driving is usually worse than smoking and driving but I know there have been times when I should not have driven because I was too high. I don't know exactly what technology will be used or invented to do real-time time impairment testing, but I think a field sobriety test could suffice until said technology is ready. I know field sobriety tests are not 100% fool proof and have to be backed up by either a blood or breathalyzer test, but at least they could tell if someone was so stoned they couldn't concentrate or stop laughing, etc. Just my two cents, but I am ready to deal with these things if it is legalized.
    I agree with you on this, 100%.

    Driving under the influence of cannabis should not be tolerated any more than driving under the influence of alcohol. According to the Yahoo article I posted, a mouth swab test for current intoxication is close to being effective.

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    Dr. Marilyn Huestis of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, a government research lab, says that soon there will be a saliva test to detect recent marijuana use.
    "Recent marijuana use" hardly sounds close to being effective to me. How long ago is "Recent use" and what is acceptable? And you obviously smoke, but are so against smoking and driving, so how long do you wait? Is it different if you are smoking with (or before) a meal (like so many drinkers claim)?
    I still feel that me at the most stoned i could possibly be am still a much more capable driver than a person who is at the .08 legal limit.

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    I've been pulled over at my highest and the cop didn't even question me about it.

    Make a law and that will change for every driver they think they can ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruenoAE86coupe View Post
    "Recent marijuana use" hardly sounds close to being effective to me. How long ago is "Recent use" and what is acceptable? And you obviously smoke, but are so against smoking and driving, so how long do you wait? Is it different if you are smoking with (or before) a meal (like so many drinkers claim)?
    I still feel that me at the most stoned i could possibly be am still a much more capable driver than a person who is at the .08 legal limit.
    Actually, I don't use, buy, sell or grow cannabis at all. My interest in the matter is to end the drug war.

    Just as Berkman said above, there will have to be some restrictions on driving under the influence. This is a PR issue with the general public. Legalization will never happen without the buy-in of the general public.

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