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Old 12-21-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Medical v. General
Before there is any miscommunication, I am for medical use.

Is the push to get the public to accept MJ as a medicine detrimental to acceptance for general use?

So here's my theory. There is no medicine out there that is as effective as MJ has been proven to be and still be safe for general consumption. Every medicine that provides great benefits also have dangerous side effects. Even simpler medicines like aspirin have potentially dangerous side effects if used/consumed improperly. The assumption behind things that are approved for general consumption is that IF it is used/consumed improperly that there aren't dangerous side effects. These to assumptions by the public seems to make it impossible for something to be accepted as a potent medicine but still safe enough for general use.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:51 PM
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Default Moot Point
I see where you are coming from.
The way I see it is, until we get open minder politicians, neither one can hurt the other.

They take the hard line that marijuana is a dangerous drug and there is no medical use for it....
Regardless of what numerous studies have shown, there is no medical use for it....

End of Discussion... No Medical Use for it. Period...

We can have all the information from all the studies that say marijuana has legitimate medical uses, BUT
as long as the oil baron, pharmaceutical empower, regime is running things

IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!

To bad though

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I see where you are coming from.
The way I see it is, until we get open minder politicians, neither one can hurt the other.

They take the hard line that marijuana is a dangerous drug and there is no medical use for it....
Regardless of what numerous studies have shown, there is no medical use for it....

End of Discussion... No Medical Use for it. Period...

We can have all the information from all the studies that say marijuana has legitimate medical uses, BUT
as long as the oil baron, pharmaceutical empower, regime is running things

IT DOES NOT MATTER!!!!

To bad though

I feel better after my little rant.
I feel better after reading it, thanks exactly how I feel.
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I have been voicing this same concern for some time now, although for the most part the response I get is "how could you be so lacking in compassion"? My concern is that I know of no legal prescription drugs that are also approved for use by the general public for recreational use.

In other words, if the Feds ever decide to accept the medicalization concept, recreational users will still be stigmitized and criminalized.

So my premise has been (and hence the criticism), marijuana should NOT be medicalized, but should be legalized on the alcohol/tobacco model... those who need it for medical purposes will then have much easier access and those responsible tax-paying recreational users can finally come out of the closet.

I have plenty of compassion, I just don't think anyone should be jailed for adult marijuana use, period.

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Default Well Said
That was very well stated VintageGrow.

I personally don't smoke marijuana, but I see no harm being done by the adults that do.
I believe prohibition should be ended, and consumption controlled.
For me that would be a win, win situation.

I believe prohibition is unconstitutional.
Congress had to amend the constitution to prohibit alcohol. 18th amendment
Repealed of prohibition 21st amendment

Why is marijuana any different?
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There are more FDA regulations when marijuana is used medically because its medical use classifies it as a drug, doesnt it? Meaning that when general legalization becomes an issue it has to be treated much like other prescription drugs, regardless of how harmless it is. Does that make sense or am i full of it?
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If marijuana is medicalized, I believe it would fall under the jurisdiction of the FDA, as do all prescription medicines.

If it's modeled after the alcohol/tobacco model, it stands to reason that criminal issues regarding same would fall under the umbrella of the ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms), which I guess would have to change it's name to the ACTF (Bureau of Alcohol, Cannabis, Tobacco & Firearms)...
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Default Have You Heard of the Single Convention?
For the blissfully ignorant, It's a treaty that the the US along with about 108 other countries have signed. It's probably the root of the legalization/med use issue. It's why states can say it's cool and the feds will still come in and shut down a compassion club, or opium den. Here's the preamble:

As amended by the 1972 protocol amending the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs 1961.
PREAMBLE
The Parties,
Concerned with the health and welfare of mankind,
Recognizing that the medical use of narcotic drugs continues to be indispensable for the relief of pain and suffering and that adequate provision must be made to ensure the availability of narcotic drugs for such purposes,
Recognizing that addiction to narcotic drugs constitutes a serious evil for the individual and is fraught with social and economic danger to mankind,
Conscious of their duty to prevent and combat this evil,
Considering that effective measures against abuse of narcotic drugs require co-ordinated and universal action,
Understanding that such universal action calls for international co-operation guided by the same principles and aimed at common objectives,
Acknowledging the competence of the United Nations in the field of narcotics control and desirous that the international organs concerned should be within the framework of that Organization,
Desiring to conclude a generally acceptable international convention replacing existing treaties on narcotic drugs, limiting such drugs to medical and scientific use, and providing for continuous international co-operation and control for the achievement of such aims and objectives,

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I'm not sure what comes after the preamble, but the preamble seems to support medical marijuana

Desiring to conclude a generally acceptable international convention replacing existing treaties on narcotic drugs, limiting such drugs to medical and scientific use...

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I'm not sure what comes after the preamble, but the preamble seems to support medical marijuana

Desiring to conclude a generally acceptable international convention replacing existing treaties on narcotic drugs, limiting such drugs to medical and scientific use...
It's way to big and boring to post the whole thing. But you can read it yourself here:

Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs 1961

And read what Wiki says about it here:

Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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