Prop 19: Yes or No

Well, I was doing some brain storming after watching the Union: The Business Behind Getting High. I came to the conclusion that I fully understand why people don't like the regulation and control of cannabis so therefore they are voting no. I can agree that the Govt might not be the best to control something like that. I do however think it will come down to that if marijuana is to ever become legal.

I however do NOT agree with the ones that want marijuana to remain illegal for their profits. That's just fucked up. You'd rather see prisons expand and non violent offenders to go jail so you can get rich quick by marijuana being illegal.

So in conclusion, I can see both sides but I would still have to say it will have to come down to regulation and taxation if it is to ever be legal. There is just too much money to be lost/gained for it to not be.

For those who are on the fence I would say watch The Union. Very good documentary, probably the best I've ever seen. Then make your choice on Prop 19. If it passes or fails, either way it's going to change the future of marijuana legalization.

mr2shim said:

I however do NOT agree with the ones that want marijuana to remain illegal for their profits. That's just fucked up. You'd rather see prisons expand and non violent offenders to go jail so you can get rich quick by marijuana being illegal.

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I dont agree with those who want to profit off of the restriction of others either. Right now C.A. is allright not perfect but pretty good with regards to marijuana acceptance. I have real concerns that the passing of prop 19 could result in more people going to jail and prison as well as more fines and regulations surrounding marijuana. I also realize the far reaching impact of the buisness-as highlighted in the union- you might work at a factory that makes timers or be in realestate and indirectly make your industry. prop 19 could have a very wide reaching impact on C.A. some of my worries may be baseless some may be very real but I think it is worth thinking about if we want to make this huge change. --And not all growers are greedy rich pricks some just want to be reimbursed for the time and money they put in.

fdd2blk said:

i have spent the last 4 weeks straight trimming. all day every day. i do NOT work for free. how many hours of labor alone are involved in producing a pound of weed? from watering, to shopping for supplies, to tending, to trimming and packaging? let alone the cost of the physical needs.

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I would agree that it takes a lot of time to grow marijuana, I don't think the prices people are paid to do it can be justified. It's really not HARD work, it's just tedious work. Much like working at a factory making 10-12 bucks an hour.

I think that we shouldn't have to pay for say...armed guards or dogs or whatever as part of the price of pot.
everything is taxed besides food where i live ( and some hemp can be made into food. Separate issue maybe?) be it gas, cigarettes, tables, houses, etc...so I don't see a good reason to exclude pot from this process. I am aware that some farmers may not be able to compete with factory farms. The way i see it, those people would probably want to try something else...perhaps there is enough of a demand for high quality, organic, pot that they could survive. Perhaps they will be forced to do something else BUT they will still be able to grow pot for themselves.

gupp said:

I think that we shouldn't have to pay for say...armed guards or dogs or whatever as part of the price of pot.
everything is taxed besides food where i live ( and some hemp can be made into food. Separate issue maybe?) be it gas, cigarettes, tables, houses, etc...so I don't see a good reason to exclude pot from this process. I am aware that some farmers may not be able to compete with factory farms. The way i see it, those people would probably want to try something else...perhaps there is enough of a demand for high quality, organic, pot that they could survive. Perhaps they will be forced to do something else BUT they will still be able to grow pot for themselves.

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Yep, I'm sure some of home growers will be ran out of town so to speak. Same way Walmart killed mom and pop grocery stores. It's the way of the future. People want everything quick and cheap. If it happened to food, water, shelter, clothing, education, you name it. It will happen to pot. There is no way you can stop the giant unless our entire economy comes crushing to a halt or crumbling down just like the Roman Empire. "Get on or get out of the way"

Yes on p19, of course. Why would anybody vote no?

desert dude said:

Yes on p19, of course. Why would anybody vote no?

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Potential looses from selling under the table to non medical card holders. People with their own agenda. They'll try to dress it up and put a tie on it but it comes down to them not being able to live the lifestyle they want because marijuana will be readily available to anyone 21+

Check out The Union: The Business Behind Getting High. It's on netflix. One of the best marijuana documentaries I've ever seen.

mr2shim said:

Potential looses from selling under the table to non medical card holders. People with their own agenda.

Check out The Union: The Business Behind Getting High. It's on netflix. One of the best marijuana documentaries I've ever seen.

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True. There is that. After p19 passes they can all just become tax evaders and still knock down the big bucks, though. It's a win-win.

I live in WA, I'm hoping if it passes we will see some fallout here.

Edit: We have Medical here which lets you grow 15 plants, but technically you have to be pretty much on your death bed or have glaucoma.
http://www.doh.wa.gov/hsqa/medical-marijuana/

( I asked my psychologist about it and he wasn't qualified to get me a card, and I'm healthy so I'd have to pretty much lie to get it. The only psychological disease that you can even get it for here is anorexia. No anxiety, etc. ) Haven't smoked since August though.

We had a bill that was supposed to be on the ballot this year but it failed to get enough signatures for a vote. I regret not working harder to help it. So now I'm hoping that California goes through with this.

Vote YES, obviously.