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11-24-2007, 03:05 AM
|  | You Deserved It. Rollitup Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hashville
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| | It totally sucks. its one more thing the goverments got total control of as usual but the consequences are HUGE!!! Some people have gotten away with murder for less. It is rediculous but who is gonna be the first to stand ground. There needs to be a way to take some of our power back without the chance of being locked up. I mean, I'm all for supporting the right cause but not if it means risking my family. They mean more to me than the weed. I do think the world is changing. Look how far weed has come to how it was viewed years ago with 'reefer maddness' and all that garbage. Quote:
Originally Posted by skunkushybrid Yeah, you haven't hurt anybody. you're just growing a plant and harvesting it yourself.
You get jail for that, kidnapped and held alongside psychopaths... treated with disrespect by the police and prison guards... it's gonna piss you off.
The world needs to change, and if we don't do it who will? Why should we live in fear of the police or authorities that might just take away our rights to grow at any moment?
We all know it isn't right. | | 
11-24-2007, 03:10 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands
Posts: 8,918
| | the government work hard to bring out scientific claims that take years to disprove... and then they are usually disproved by the cannabis community themselves.
Yes, we have a larger voice now... which is why this would be the ideal time to strike. I don't see how we could lose our liberty. They don't have enough prisons.
Then it's in the news, they lock so and so up but his neighbour's still right on growing... so's Charlie down the road, and Michael up the hill. The prisons in my country are full, where they going to put us all?
We just all need to stand firm.
This isn't a fight we can lose. They will have no choice but to make it legal because we will make the choice for them. | 
11-24-2007, 03:11 AM
|  | You Deserved It. Rollitup Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hashville
Posts: 9,844
| | If there was a way to get everyone from this site to hook up to their computers on a certain day, time etc and do something that stirs up enough interest for a news coverage,,,then more people might(and probably would) join the bandwagon. Most people are followers and want a leader. Sad but true. | 
11-24-2007, 03:12 AM
|  | You Deserved It. Rollitup Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hashville
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| | Its very possible. | 
11-24-2007, 03:21 AM
| | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,667
| | it is a fight we could lose. each of us can lose bigtime. our houses, cars, family, freedom. i really think you're going about this the wrong way, skunk.
in the u.s. laws are changed by enough people getting behind them. if there is a vast majority of the citizens who want change, change can be affected.
you do not change a law, by breaking the law. you use the law to change the law. you get EVERYONE who is favorable to speak out, put the inititive on the ballot, and vote on it. if it gets turned down, you do it again and again and again untill they hear us.
this is how prohibition of alcohol was changed. what you're not getting is that there does not seem to be enough people raising their voice for canabis legalization. we're not the majority of the population, as was the case for alcohol. | 
11-24-2007, 03:22 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands
Posts: 8,918
| | Yes, I think so too. This is why i mentioned a specific date. This gives time for the word to spread.
This would even help the government, our co2 emissions would drop right down... the crime rate would fall drastically. Not just in regards to cannabis, but it is no lie that if there is no weed around violent crime goes up. So I see a reduction in crime right across the scale.
Another upside, if it ever happens, is that we as common men and women, will have shown that we really do wield the power. The government should not be separate from us, but actually be a representation of us.
They smoke weed too, with the times as they are it would be a good time to strike. | 
11-24-2007, 03:27 AM
|  | You Deserved It. Rollitup Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hashville
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| | Yes i agree with you HUGELY on this and this would be the biggest concern for most people and should be BUT there is a way around it. WE could..... Quote:
Originally Posted by closet.cult it is a fight we could lose. each of us can lose bigtime. our houses, cars, family, freedom. i really think you're going about this the wrong way, skunk.
in the u.s. laws are changed by enough people getting behind them. if there is a vast majority of the citizens who want change, change can be affected.
you do not change a law, by breaking the law. you use the law to change the law. you get EVERYONE who is favorable to speak out, put the inititive on the ballot, and vote on it. if it gets turned down, you do it again and again and again untill they hear us.
this is how prohibition of alcohol was changed. what you're not getting is that there does not seem to be enough people raising their voice for canabis legalization. we're not the majority of the population, as was the case for alcohol. | | 
11-24-2007, 03:30 AM
|  | You Deserved It. Rollitup Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hashville
Posts: 9,844
| | On a certain day and time get everyone to call their government block up the lines It snot illegal. just annoying.  OR | 
11-24-2007, 03:30 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands
Posts: 8,918
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by closet.cult this is how prohibition of alcohol was changed. what you're not getting is that there does not seem to be enough people raising their voice for canabis legalization. we're not the majority of the population, as was the case for alcohol. | There's not enough people because we fear what you fear.
alcohol prohibition was changed because the government wanted the money the gangs were reaping in... I don't care how they try and butter it up.
Who are the government? Are they royalty, or are they you and me? They may threaten to hang us, but if enough of us stand at once the rope and the threat is useless.
Where I'm from we are the majority of the population.
This doesn't stop at weed forums, there are people that don't even like weed that agree it should be legalised, and that the government HAVE NO RIGHT to tell us we can't grow it.
This is why the media in my country, very recently brought out a report that one toke of a joint will cause some type of psychosis. This was national news, newspapers... everything. Idiots were talking about it like they actually knew what they were talking about.
The power should be with the people, and I believe our voices are large enough, and our numbers great enough to make the stand. | 
11-24-2007, 03:31 AM
| | Veteran Smoker Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,667
| | people at NORML have been fighting for decades for cannabis prohibition repeal. they had Carl Sagan and his wife Anne on their side. She still sits on the board and they've gotten nowhere. but they ARE fighting from the legal side, which is the correct way to approach this.
what we need is a larger % of the population to agree with us. we need to affect the population.
financial benifits is a very good argument. the governement would save millions on not incarcerating marijuana users. BUT, call me cinical but i truly believe that marijuana is illegal BECAUSE it brings in millions to fight it! our tax dollars pay for police and judges and prisons and lawyers.
canada pisses me off too because they had the right, rational idea regarding cannabis and they let the u.s. strong arm them politically into stepping up their laws. they were on their way to legalization.
Last edited by closet.cult; 11-24-2007 at 03:38 AM.
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