Why not tax and regulate with the exception of the sick. It is sad the businesses have to think about how they will make money from people who need something that should be so cheap. However, because cannabis is a mind altering drug, I would understand government wanting to know how much is out there (at least in the baby years). I wouldn't mind having a $50 tag/plant to grow my own or something around those lines. It beats paying a lawyer. Taxing it per ounce seems silly. How would that be enforced unless you were marketing and selling it, in which case you would need a business license and special set of standards I'm sure.

Eventually the market prices would level out, and after the government + society realizes that all hell won't break loose, then it would become much more lax.

Cool14001,

I know it seems somehow wrong to associate profit with the sick and dying, but in reality, it has been all profit motive that has driven the explosion in healthcare advances throughout the past century. I'm sure people along the way were also doing it to contribute to humanity, but profit is what made it happen. There's no coincidence that the biggest advances in human history began along with the explosion of free market liberty in the 1800's.

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I completely agree, it is just hard when you are talking with someone directly affected by a lack of insurance.

If businessmen couldn't make profits from insurance then they would be directing their ambitions elsewhere. Taking with them all the advances into their field where they can make a profit.

the government is never really supposed to hold down one product (cannabis) while allowing competing corporate bodies to fill the gap (pharmaceuticals, tobacco, alcohol, petroleum, Hannity, etc).. this is a mistake people are going to have to acknowledge in the future.. or perhaps its just new and trendy to have laws about market dominance..

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That's a real shame that national norml and oaksterdam have that position but that is the reality of a corporation/business and make no mistake about it they are in the business of staying in business and staying profitable.

FYI there's a new "oaksterdam" in the portland oregon area that might need talent at some point, tell that guy who was fired to google Oregon Medical Cannabis University also I saw on craigslist there is an opening for Executive Director of the Eugene Compassion Center. http://corvallis.craigslist.org/npo/1390227777.html

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have any of you cig smokers out there (tobacco) evr thought of growing ur own smoke? no? well if u have thats too bad cause the gov. regulates all tob. plant sales and alotments. meaning they tell they farmer how much he's allowed to grow. not just anyone is allowed to grow it. the farmers who do grow it have to have state issued licenses. anyone who lives in a tobacco growing state will know wat i'm talking about. i'm sure this is how ibe for mary jane if she ever gets to hit the streets inside of a legal package of some sort. y does there always have to be some kind of hook? y cant we just truly be free?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? y cant i have a million dollars? wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Homegrown is "everywhere" however it would stop once prices drop.
I don't think you would be able to ask more then 20-40 bucks an ounce.
After a few years outdoor and indoor agrobuisness would be rolling out kick ass product.
Indoor grows would be for personal use, unusual strains and whatnot.
Hell I would be surprised if Marlburo didn't start marketing "Greens."
You'll probably be able to buy trimmed weed in tins like coffee cans,
Like you buy pipe tobaco today, for about $320 bucks.

I just hope they do something to legalize it!
We don't need the cops hounding peaceful people anymore.
After legaization we can argue the finer points.
But if prices don't come down from street values theres something wrong.

OFC no one wants to be taxed, but it's a matter of being practical. Marketing legalization as "tax and regulate" is extremely effective. It's something that the people of California support.

The difference between the bill passing and not passing may very well be the tax money it will bring in. The state needs money and everyone knows it. It gives a reason for people who don't care about marijuana one way or the other to vote in favor of legalization.

Dennis Peron and Jack Herer are probably right about what they are saying but you don't get bonus points for that. Richard Lee's bill could bring an end to prohibition in California. Isn't that the ultimate goal?

Dennis Peron and Jack Herer are making the perfect become the enemy of the good here. Ending prohibition should be the main goal. We can worry about the rest later.

If this bill passes Richard Lee will end up as the Budweiser of weed. Kind of a shame since his product at Blue Sky Cafe is inferior, but I'll take it if he can get us legalization.

amen.

fuck regulation! fuck taxation! i kinda like being an outlaw!
¡viva zapata!








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