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Old 07-21-2009, 12:53 AM
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well I was in Amsterdam and they had some straight fire ass bomb buds and they sold them between 2.50 and 4.00 dollars a gram so I think it would be way cheaper I'm going to agree with the 10 dollar range> It will most likely be like this 3 dollars for a gram and 7 dollars for tax.
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You havent been to the Dam recently have you. Last time i was there(2 years ago) the prices for good high quality weed was a bit on the pricey side. like say a gram of SShaze was about 7 to 13 euro depending on shop. And i actually payed 15 euro for a gram of a Nevills Haze. Shits not cheap there any more. Especially if your looking for water hash, the prices can be outragous! I payed 40 Euro for some water hash named Natural Sin. It was good but not 40 Euro a gram good, thats like 55 dollars U.S. It wasnt even FMCD!!! I used to be able to get grams of FMCD at the clubs in SanFran for 50 a gram and that shit was Out of this World
Yeah and even though its ok to smoke the dutch still bust people for growing. I know at one point I was hearing of a lot of what was being sold in the dam was imported. I remember threads on Swiss weed being grown just for the amsterdam market on OG. The author made it sound like the swiss either had or would decrim but it never happened that I know of.

I saw 4$ a gram weed in the damn but it was sold in prerolls or the one time I bought ANY was the only actual 'purple' haze I could find. I was there for the cup so most shops wanted to push their entries. Selection was still unreal good but the avg was 7-13 a gram. Some of the best weed I've ever smoked was $25 us for the normal 2g (1.8g) bag and that was expensive. I could live in amsterdam forever and not pay over $20/2g to get blazed.

You'd have people who want to get stoned and spend nothing. Snoop next to you on the porch...they will always exist but you'll have people still willing to get the best weed no matter how much it is. I've seen a casual smoker with FU kind of money get his order of two $400 strains, a $600 strain, and one $800 strain. He's told me it goes up to $1200 on this persons menu though he's never ordered any. We're talking about a QP total in four mason jars for $2200. I'm sure this friend of mine 'eric' only orders once every 6 months and only gets low on weed but that is $8 grand a pound for pot.

This guy has built a loyal customer base and yeah his prices may have to fluctuate but he will never have to worry about not eating steak everyday if pot is legal...trust me these people exist to a much greater degree than people realize.

BTW - the 8 beans an oz weed. I have never been stoned for so long from hitting so little weed in my life. I was chronic at the time and not stoned to start before I got to taste that. It was incredible flavor with a great up stone that easily went an hour before there was a lets finish this bowl. I was not "stoned" atm but I had a great buzz still and didn't need another hit...oh well Would I pay eight hundred for this weed? Not unless I had this guy's money but that's the point. If I had his cash I WOULD keep some of this around in a jar. You think I'm worried about paying a $50 a zip tax if I'm willing to spend that on weed?

The real answer for me would be no. I have a real problem paying over the top prices for weed, I know how cheaply really good weed can be grown. I do understand paying high prices from time to time for something special but the day to day smoke has to be a reasonable price for me. Same with the "high" priced herb, its ok to be high but it has to be reasonable to me and 600 a oz is way too high for my taste. To each his own. This is why the legal industry would change sure but for the most part it will stay the same.
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:36 AM
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This is exactly what I was thinking. The prices almost have to drop at least a bit otherwise the street dealers all stay in business. A middleman here or there might be cut out but it wouldn't be hard to underbid if the legal prices mimicked the illegal ones.

I definitely see the discounts for patients being a very real and very common occurrence in a situation where it was to become 100% legal.
I think they would increase the penalties for growing or dealing without a license drastically.
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I think they would increase the penalties for growing or dealing without a license drastically.
but if it's legal there are no penalties for growing
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the main point is, that its not socially accepted by the "class" that runs the country - the congress men and senators get most of their votes from devoted organisations such as church and non profit groups...

the openly gay san fran congress men was introducing an addition to a bill to tax the medical marji even more, NPR even interviewed on of the coffee shop owners up there, and he welcomes the tax. But he is very new and does have much pull...

In addition to the churchs the other groups like plan parenthood actually influce the laws greatly - it because they are organised - IF marji ever becomes legal it will have to recognized by more than just individuals like Willie and others - Weed will have to be recognized by respectable organisation - norml is getting there - but I think its important to disassociate it with just Weed - needs to be an entire social reform plan - less regulation is the name of the game... how much money is wasted in the legal system alone?
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but if it's legal there are no penalties for growing
Yes legal to grow with a license. The whole discussion here is about legalization. Do you honestly believe there would legalization without regulation. That's the only way they can tax it.
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Yes legal to grow with a license. The whole discussion here is about legalization. Do you honestly believe there would legalization without regulation. That's the only way they can tax it.

Well, they tax tobaco and you don't need a liscense to grow that. Anybody can grow tobaco that wants to. Why wouldn't legal marijuana be the same?
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Well, they tax tobaco and you don't need a liscense to grow that. Anybody can grow tobaco that wants to. Why wouldn't legal marijuana be the same?
I'm just going by what is already happened. There are stipulations that regulate possession and cultivation. Our government is known for over regulating everything. I feel that some compromise will have to be reached to achieve legalization, because right now pot is a money making machine for the gov. and it will have to remain that way even if it's legal. I don't like it, but that's reality.
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You don't need to tax a $100 Billion dollar a year industry hard to generate a shitload of revenue. It would be in line with alcohol or other like products. If taxed just like alcohol it's been estimated it could generate $30B USD a year in taxes. Billion. I personally don't have a problem with paying a fair tax like that on it we need to generate revenues to help the govt stay afloat and legitimate business op's. There has never been a better time in history to finally make the changes. It's good for people and ultimately good for our economy.
Consider that legalization could be the "Next Big Thing" to alter the economy of the U.S. for the better. Like taking computer programming courses was in the '90s or insider trading in the '80s. Granted, the latter is/was illegal, but a lot of folks made a lot of dough.

The cost of legal MJ at coffee shops would be higher than your dealer, but at least it would be a solid connection for top shelf dope. As the market became more and more saturated, the cost would drop.

And, yes, the government would (and should) tax the heck out of it. But the indirect savings would be the real boon: reduced law enforcement resources focused on MJ would enable them to go after the dangerous drugs; a large segment of the prison population would (or should, at least) be released reducing the correctional budgets of local/state/federal agencies; redirecting profits from chemists at the Big Pharma companies back to rural farming would be a much welcome shift and would mitigate 'flight of capital' issues that rural America continues to face.

There really is NO downside. The scare tactics used by the propagandists about kids using and "losing their youth" could be counteracted with increasing criminal penalties for selling to underage kids.
 

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