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Old 07-14-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Number 1 reason Why I think doja is illegal....

Well these are just my opinions. i am in no way saying these are the exact reasons the government has made marijuana illegal and probly has no plans on legalizing it.

1. No tax money - This being because its so f-ing easy to grow(in my opinion) that anyone could grow it and not pay a cent to the government. Take for instance Tobbacco, as much as people want it illegal the government wont do shit about it, why, because they make so much f-ing tax money off it. Think about it man, if there were a thousand people growning Garden sized weed patches how much tax money would that be from the gov? A f-ing lot. i mean look at how much it goes for on the street? people would still be selling it for the prices they are now , really robbing the people buying it, because the people buying it could grow easily a pound per bush. i know this really isnt a well thought or for that matter well put together thesis (nice word just learned haha) so im going to leave it at that

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Old 07-14-2007, 05:43 AM
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I think it's just the general demonization that marjiuana has expierenced over the years, especially during the Reagan administration and Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" Campaign. But I'm sure it started much longer before that. Throughout our history, marijuana has been associated with all the fringe groups of society (Artists during the Harlem Renaissance, various ethnic groups in the bayou south, hippies, the beat movement, rap and hip hop). And thats why, in my opinion, that cannabis has the bad rap that it does. Our society hates the users, so why not hate the drug? Only thing is, everyone loves the treeeeeeeeeeeeesss. shit I'm high.
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:56 AM
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The worst demonization occurred just after prohibition. It was around 1936 and the liquor industry wanted to be the only legal thing that could get you high. So they put out a movie called "Reefer Madness", which showed people who smoked marijuana turning into some Lizzie Borden style ax murderers and other types of killers. They then took truckloads of money up to Capitol Hill and got both houses of Congress to make it illegal. That is when the founding fathers rolled over in their coffins, since most of them not only grew but used it as well, not just for smoking. Hemp was used by them for ropes, paper, and military uniforms for its sturdiness and cost to produce it.
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I think the biggest reason many states are having such a hard time getting a
medical marijuana program going is the damn perscription drug companies..their dirty
money is paying for the campaigns of so many politicians....

We also need to make drug company advertising on television illegal again...
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:54 PM
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well there are many reasons why marijuana isnt legal. But frankly i think the biggest reason has to do with the stakeholders. Namely i think it boils down to several key areas: the private prison sector, overbloated DEA and the alchohol/tobacco industries.

The private prison sector is a no brainer. So many of the criminals are convicted on bs marijuana charges and that's the prison sectors bread and butter. While the "war on drugs" continues they'll still be in their hay day. The thing is, marijuana use is an epidemic (not in a negative sense) so the use of casual users has skyrocketed. I mean I dont smoke a lot of pot but I would bc its a soft drug. You could get me to smoke a joint but i would never touch acid/crack/heroin etc and so forth. And i think that many people are hte same way as for their recreational use.
As such you have a huge market and a supplier chain that is profiting the PPS a lot of money.

Alchohol/Tobacco companies are just a group who have been in the right place at the right time. Although each of these drugs has been proven to be more dangerous than marijuana, they are socially and culturally accepted in north america. It is definitely in their best interest to see that marijuana does not get legallized as its just another substance to compete with. So this group would be very apprehensive to any legalization movement and they've got billions to throw at the problem. Misinformation campaigns, pundit hacks and media portrayals do marijuana no justice. whenever you see an marijuana bust you'll almost always see guns or hear about organized crime. The truth of the matter is that this is just the nature of the beast, prohibition.

Finally theres the political reasons. It would be so difficult to go through and free all the prisoners of this drug war. The embarassment it would cause to politicians, judges and other hacks would bring down a lot of people who could otherwise just stick with the status quo. The DEA would find themselves undergoing a mass extinction and at the butt end of a big joke.

These are typicall the reasons why i believe marijuana is illegal and im fairly confident these are the legitimate factors and im giong ot take some time to respond to some other ideas in this thread.

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This being because its so f-ing easy to grow(in my opinion) that anyone could grow it and not pay a cent to the government. Take for instance Tobbacco, as much as people want it illegal the government wont do shit about it, why, because they make so much f-ing tax money off it. Think about it man, if there were a thousand people growning Garden sized weed patches how much tax money would that be from the gov? A f-ing lot. i mean look at how much it goes for on the street? people would still be selling it for the prices they are now , really robbing the people buying it, because the people buying it could grow easily a pound per bush. i know this really isnt a well thought or for that matter well put together thesis (nice word just learned haha) so im going to leave it at that
I hate to do this, but i gotta point out a lot of problems with your points. Firstly, marijuana is not an easy plant to grow, anyone who has grown a decent plant knows that at least that much is untrue. Firstly, it's at least a four month commitment which involves research, at least 3 visits/week and intense observation. Your first mistake in growing marijuana can very well be your last.

Secondly, growing costs money: Genetics, soils/fertilizers, pots (about 100$ this year alone), time/labour, pesticides/fungicides, anti-odour agents, projects (drying boxes/filters/jars/scales/viles/butane). This really disproves the idea that "growing is easy" and frankly it pisses me off when i see some dude who doesnt really know what hes talking about spreading this idea.

This is also just me talking about outdoor growing, indoor is much worse in terms of the money it costs to grow. Firstly, no ones going to be legally allowed to grow marijuana in any place that they rent, no super wants that for safety, maintenance and monetary reasons. Secondly, no house insurance is going to allow people to grow in any house they insure, this could cost them a lot of money. Finally, it does add up in the electricity bill (not to mention anything else ie lights) and the fruits of labor are months away for the indoor grower with no guarantees of a successful harvest.

So when you think about it, who the fuck is going to go through all this trouble of doing their own grow if they could walk down to the liquor store and pick up a couple grams of killer weed for 10$?

and by the way, all you guys growing this stuff are dangerous terrorists who wouldnt think twice about killing millions of innocent if you were given the chance.
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token that was a good link. Thanks for it good video also.
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i think it is illegal because the white man didnt make it, its just because when the indians wern't getting high they were killing the white men who cares they were just jellous they didnt come up with it first i mean get over it it's not that big of a deal
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yeah i watched the histery of marijuana on the history channel.


We first tried hash when the usa was born from the spainards. its was little gum balls with hash inside for the kids.


then around that time herorine came to the usa and feines started robbing houses and rapping ppl so they blamed it on weed.

but the main reason is tax and lack of control on the substance
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