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Old 03-15-2009, 01:21 PM
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we may see it decrimalized and be legal to grow a certain number or go to a dispensory and buy and pay taxes. if its decrimalized, i dont beleive it will be legal for anyone to just sell it on the street, the gov. wants their cut. so nobody will lose jobs.
i would love it to be legal but will probly never happen.
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Well, at present California is considering a $50/oz. tax and some other place (I forgot which right now) is considering a $100/oz. tax.

Also, right here in Compassion Central U.S.A. just a couple of weeks ago was an article about an 85-year-old WWII vet being thrown out in the street for smoking -cigarettes- in her apartment.

Speaking of cigarettes, the goal of course is to tax them out of existence. They intend to raise the tax until no one buys them.
insightful metaphor about The Weakest Link man... that's a very fitting way to put it. however if i may disagree with you slightly - i think the high tax on cigarettes is more designed to deter future smokers since, for the current smoker, the demand for cigarettes is rather inelastic. and of course it's meant to generate revenue.
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insightful metaphor about The Weakest Link man... that's a very fitting way to put it. however if i may disagree with you slightly - i think the high tax on cigarettes is more designed to deter future smokers since, for the current smoker, the demand for cigarettes is rather inelastic. and of course it's meant to generate revenue.
Thanks for the compliment.

As far as the tax on cigarettes, it's classic drug-dealer SOP; get them hooked and then squeeze them dry.

Calling it anything else is pure mendacity.
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Liquor is legal, but you cant make it at home or its ilegal. IMHO it will be the same with weed even if it does become "legal". I could never understand how the GVT can make it illegal to smoke a plant that grows wild.. A plant that needs no chemical proccess like Coceine/Heroin etc.. Its just damn plant for crying out loud.. Pull it from the groud,Dry it,Smoke it.. THATS IT.. Its basically the same as tobacoo.. Except MJ has medical benefits whereas tobacco kills people and is addictive. IMHO the U.S. is taking away our god given rights by telling us we cannot smoke MJ.

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no, California is the only place in the world looking at out right legalizing marijuana ... no other place is considering a $100 tax because no other place is looking to legalize marijuana

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actually the goal is to tax them and then to use some of that money to educate the public on the health concerns attributed to the consumption of tobacco.... depending on where you are you can grow tobacco at home ... you can not tax anything out of existence.. it will simply just go to a black market.. like marijuana

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i think you are way way way underestimating how much tax revenue marijuana would bring in... cali alone thinks they can get a couple billion a year in revenue... i realize your post was just a guesstimate and im here to support it but broaden its horizon.... i think there should be the regular tax for hemp.... no special tax... its just hemp which is a good fiber for our economy....

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well i just got to thinking and i was wondering how much profit the govt could actually make... so here's a shot.
300 million people x 50 cent tax per joint x .05 (5 percent of ppl smoking weed seems to be a liberal number, but fuck it) x 365 days a year comes out to.... 2.7375 billion. so round that up to 3 billion when considering paraphernalia and such. that's if it's taxed by the joint, which i think is still worth it in my opinion. also assuming that the average person would only smoke once a day.
i dont konw how much revenue could be made off of farmers growing hemp for fiber, but if that would be substantial, which i kind of doubt, then maybe we'd be getting into numbers that would appeal to the govt.
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if you live in the USA then you can make liquor at home... no license.. no bullshit... my family has been making wine and beer for years now.. we can brew it openly and buy the ingredients in the taxed and regulated market... nothing about brewing beer is illegal in the USA

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Liquor is legal, but you cant make it at home or its ilegal. IMHO it will be the same with weed even if it does become "legal". I could never understand how the GVT can make it illegal to smoke a plant that grows wild.. A plant that needs no chemical proccess like Coceine/Heroin etc.. Its just damn plant for crying out loud.. Pull it from the groud,Dry it,Smoke it.. THATS IT.. Its basically the same as tobacoo.. Except MJ has medical benefits whereas tobacco kills people and is addictive. IMHO the U.S. is taking away our god given rights by telling us we cannot smoke MJ.
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