i think that all this fight for marijuan to be legal is won with a loop hole that we have to exploit...i use tobacco as an example of a "drug"...it really does nothing for you..with millions upon millions..of cigerette related deaths(being a smoker or a victim of second hand smoke)..and none for marijuana use with the prod the marijuana has to offer....lol..in california you can go to a doctor..and pay for your recommendation..every state should be like that...we have won..if we press the issue further than that...we will loose the actual fight..having marijuana decriminilized as a whole could prove dextrimental to certain freedoms you have...if u wanna smoke,grow,carry .or consume marijuana get the proper paper work to do so...lol....i can see the not smoking it while operating machinery thing..but alcohol is just as mind alteringso what its sold in stores everywhere...... fuck it..u wanna smoke..go to a despisary....yea its fucked up that you have to pay to get a recommendation but hey.....think about this..you can grow tobacco in your home..but you cant sell it...just like if your a medical patient..u cant groe mariijuana but not sell it......lol...if we press to get it decriminalized..we will probably loose the right to grow it in home because they want to tax it.....lol...stop while we ahead

we should make sure everywhere has a medical marijuana policy....fuck decriminilizing it...because it a criminal act to sell a pack of cigereetes on the corner just like weed..lol..lets get smarter...
you think that if the government posed a tax on weed..they would not go over board.....you think the government has any good intentions...lol..nope..the same agency who wont decriminilize marijuana wont criminilize the use of cigarettes which are killers for real..lol..

i somewhat agree with you there are only 13 medical states so far and im guessing ur in cali like myself and we have the most relaxed med laws there are i believe we should get most of the states for medical then the feds will finally accept medical then move toward decrimnation then legaliztion over many years i think this may happen

Yea..but partially..i dont worry about the decriminilization of marijuana..its the opposite for cigs..its not illegal to smoke it outside in public..u can buyh it freely..just be over 18..marijuana is criminal to posses unless ur medically needy..but to make it decriminilized...would mean they would try to control it more..we will prolly loose the right top grow it..lol..its ok...we wil live by not selling it...because you and i cant sell cigs..thats just as illegal as selling weed..so the bigger pic is to not try and decriminilize...its to spread the medical ideas....

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While I agree with your basic argument, I don't really feel like comprimising with the government at all for freedoms that I should already have and that never should have been taken away. They do not need more help oppressing us. We are a bunch of lazy stoners anyway. The government has too much power as it is. We should be tossing out our seeds into every ditch, flowerbed, public park, forest, etc. in the country and laughing our asses off watching them scramble to to get it all cut down before it reseeds the next year!

I also agree that decrim is stupid because decrim is also a comprimise. Legalize everything, the drug war is too expensive. people should have the legal right to burn their brains out on drugs if they want to. This country is intended to be run by the people. Start planting

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yea..plant some everywhere..i like that...but its not really working with the government...being passive aggrresive in this case will work..marijuana is the polar opposite of cig's with one likeness...its illegal to seel both...so with the bullshit technicalities thrown at us...we can beat them without decrim' it

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I don't think what the OP is saying is really valid. We have our foot in the door at best with medical marijuana laws. Until more than thirteen states have medical laws we will have no way to stop prohibition. Remember, just because your state has lax laws, doesn't mean all the others do. I live in a state where growing one plant can result in $10,000 in fines and 180 days in prison....legalization or decriminalization are our only routes to freedom here....continuing the status quo will do nothing but lead to more honest hard working Americans in an overpopulated prison system.

And how do you propose to take care of the people who "burn their brains out" on the drugs you have legalized? Some will need motorized wheel chairs, years of rehab, collect disability for the rest of their lives and millions in medical bills. Who is going to pay for their entitlements because the government decriminalized heroin and cocaine and now theres a 100x increase in it's availability and consequently 100x increase in related overdoses?

People might not like what I have to say, and you can go fuck yourself if you don't like it, but the idea that all drugs should be legal is stupid. I am the first person to fight for marijuana to be legalized, but you have to use common sense, and your radical extremist way of thinking scares those on the fence when it comes to marijuana legalization.

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I think that if all drugs were legal, and regulated, then it would actually reduce the number of people who burn their brains out on it. Morphine, Fentanyl, and all sorts of drugs are regulated, but legal in the U.S. Sure, you have people getting into morphine and fentanyl, but far fewer problems out of them than people illegally obtaining heroin which is not regulated. The drug cartel have little market for production of morphine because it is regulated.

Using freedom as an argument for decriminalization is actually hurting the argument more than than the argument for all out legalization. That's really why the drug laws are the way they are now. If we'll settle for something now, we'll settle for something later. You keep fighting for a half assed comprimise because you are scared to fight for what is already yours. Since when is liberty a "radical extremist way of thinking"? You have an angry-mouth, too bad you aren't running it in the right place.

And I also don't believe it is my responsibility to take care of pople who refuse to take care of themselves. Most likely, we would use the money that we were saving the taxpayer from unneccesarily bottlenecking the legal system.

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I would not condone the legalization for drugs, but I would for marijuana because it is not a drug dammit.

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Well there went the argument for medical marijuana. Too bad our lawmakers share your opinions.

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