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Old 08-28-2008, 09:39 AM
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Tonight I was pulled over with equipment for a legal grow in my vehicle but had forgotten the paperwork appointing me to be my fathers legal caretaker. I told the officer everything in my car was legal and gave them permission to search for whatever they wanted to find, there was nothing but equipment and a marijuana cookbook for patients. I spent a half hour cuffed and stuffed only to be let go with all my equipment and a pipe with a burnt bowl in it. I am concerned as to what the possible effects of this "letting you go with a warning to always have the paperwork with you" and am unsure how to go about living without fear of a raid. I am completely legal but you know how it is with law enforcement in general they come in mess up your stuff kill your plants and then say "oh we didnt know you were legal" type of shit. I dont want to have to worry that they are watching me cause I often get together with other growers to share tips and such about grow methods. Any legal advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
mistake number one you talked to them.
mistake number 2 you consented to a search.
NEVER under any circumstances talk to the police.
Nothing good can come of it.
ok so he found you with a light?
was it in your back seat? in plain view?
of so this was mistake number 3
always lock up your shit never let them see it

if you don't mind me asking what state are you in?
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:16 AM
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Anytime I have anything in the car that could even generate a question in the most paranoid mind...I do the following:

-Everything gets put in boxes or airtight dive cases and is put in the back of the car covered up
-I'm shaved, hair looks good, and I wear clean clothes and on a button down shirt
-If pulled over, talk radio goes on the radio low from a preset...either conservative talk or the news.
-The car is freakin' spotless inside...'knowing' LE very well...crushed cigarette boxes, cans, lighters, dirty tools, etc all trigger subconcious red flags
-The glove compartment is also exteremely orderly and all my paperwork is correct...like something an OCD patient just released from a psych ward would have
-I don't drive a flashy car and when doing anything remotely questionable, Rage Against The Machine or Public Enemy is definately is not blarring out my big stereo system.
-I've never consented to a search and when threatened with a K-9 once at a soberity checkpoint (with nothing in the car)...I said fine very politely and that I had all the time in the world...but asked if I could get a book out of my briefcase to read while I waited...they kept me maybe another five minutes and let me go

Now my buddy uses this technique too while moving things in his vehicle...he places a big bible, an open topped box of old canned goods, a pamphlet for a local homeless food shelter, and related-MapQuest directions in clear view on the back seat...everything else goes in the trunk and the car is spotless. If the cop decides to follow him after, he is just prepped to go make a charitable food donation!! He is also the one who taught me the preset radio station trick many moons ago...

Anyway, just my rambling...hope it is useful...a little deception goes a long way in diverting attention and suspicion.

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I would think twice about driving around with a pipe with a burnt bowl in my car. No sense tempting fate is there? But there's nothing illegal about owning hysdroponics equipment. I wouldn't sweat it if I were you.

GreenSurfer, those are some great tips for those of us not lucky enough to live in a MM state.
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I live in a Washington state where MM is legal. At the time I was pulled over everything was hidden except a ballast for a 250w that was in my floor boards unfortunatly I am 23 years old look like a punk and drive a red honda civic with tinted windows. I didnt have time to be anymore discreet about it. My friend who is also legal to grow was broken into the night before and whoever did it took 2 plants that were almost finished so we had to get shit out of there before something else happened. The burglar also took a shotgun and all his medication but we were afraid they were either gonna call WestNet or comeback for the remaining jackpot. But all is said and done now the raid happened they took all my plants and thats all there is to it. Now I just have to wait for the prosecutor to decide what there going to do. Washington has no definition of "60 day supply" as of yet so technically they cant do anything unless they turn it over to the feds. Until then im going to start up with the number they told me was legal even though there is no legal limit.

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I live in a Washington state where MM is legal. At the time I was pulled over everything was hidden except a ballast for a 250w that was in my floor boards unfortunatly I am 23 years old look like a punk and drive a red honda civic with tinted windows. I didnt have time to be anymore discreet about it. My friend who is also legal to grow was broken into the night before and whoever did it took 2 plants that were almost finished so we had to get shit out of there before something else happened. The burglar also took a shotgun and all his medication but we were afraid they were either gonna call WestNet or comeback for the remaining jackpot. But all is said and done now the raid happened they took all my plants and thats all there is to it. Now I just have to wait for the prosecutor to decide what there going to do. Washington has no definition of "60 day supply" as of yet so technically they cant do anything unless they turn it over to the feds. Until then im going to start up with the number they told me was legal even though there is no legal limit.
Do you know what the feds do when they catch you with a legal gun with drugs? Best option (2 point gun enhancement) which adds about 2 years to your sentence, next option (924C) which is the use of a firearm in commission of a felony and that's a mandatory 5 years added to the time which they impose upon you for the original crime. Inform yourself now and know what you face before you face it. If you want to protect yourself keep you lips sealed and get a couple of good dogs.
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guess who got raided yesterday!

Got home at around 10 am and there were 2 federal agents and a county sheriff and a state police officer along with an investigator from WestNET were waiting in my driveway on the phone with a judge getting a warrant. I had 22 plants in various stages of budding so that I had a constant supply now I have no plants and no supply.

How did you get caught? Please share so the rest of us don't make the same mistake
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pretty much how it happened was a long chain of events.

A buddy of mines house got broke into and he had plants inside whoever broke in took all his meds, 2 plants that were being flushed, his sons wii, and a shotgun.

We quickly reacted and move all of his stuff out just in case someone squeeled.

second trip after moving the plants out. I loaded up some lights and began driving following every law i know and a mile away red and blues from nowhere he said he saw grow equipment from outside (my windows are tinted legal max and there were no street lights) ends up my caretaker paperwork was not in my glove box as I thought and the cop saw a pipe inside the car that belonged to my father who is medical legal. Well after all was said and done apparently they felt the need for a "follow up" from that night and unfortunatly we took the plants to my grow.

2 weeks later they show up while I am away from the place. I pullled into the driveway as they were getting there warrant over the phone. Got the warrant and proceeded to search house shed etc. Read the legal paperwork and they made a call to someone supervisor or something and determined a legal number of plants, which doesn't exist in the state of washington and they proceeded to take all my plants and leave my equipment all setup.

We are waiting to find out if the prosecuting attorney is going to try to pursue charges if they can find anything to actually charge me with.

Hope that clears up the details a little.

btw WestNET is a narcottics task force the primarily targets marijuana grows in my area
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Tonight I was pulled over with equipment for a legal grow in my vehicle but had forgotten the paperwork appointing me to be my fathers legal caretaker. I told the officer everything in my car was legal and gave them permission to search for whatever they wanted to find, there was nothing but equipment and a marijuana cookbook for patients. I spent a half hour cuffed and stuffed only to be let go with all my equipment and a pipe with a burnt bowl in it. I am concerned as to what the possible effects of this "letting you go with a warning to always have the paperwork with you" and am unsure how to go about living without fear of a raid. I am completely legal but you know how it is with law enforcement in general they come in mess up your stuff kill your plants and then say "oh we didnt know you were legal" type of shit. I dont want to have to worry that they are watching me cause I often get together with other growers to share tips and such about grow methods. Any legal advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
Photocopies. I'm sure lots of people have already offered their advice, which probably includes the suggestion that police don't actually know the laws. My son recently experienced something similar, where they officers who pulled him over had to wait for a higher up to arrive and then tell them, "Yep, he's legal. Let him go." Twats, they should learn the fucking laws they're expected to enforce. And I'll tell you what else, the average citizen is told that ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it, so why aren't those who are tasked with enforcing the law ALSO expected to know it??? Fucking pisses me OFF.

So, here's the thing, if you're legal, you can be carrying weed and you're still good. Try telling that to an ignoramus, though.
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yep its a load of shit. Ive already got a friendly lawyer on retainer just incase something goes down
 

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