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Old 01-27-2009, 08:05 PM
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Damn, good point. I'm liking this law stuff ever since i watched that video. Its like playing the cops game and knowing what your doing. I didn't even think about that as being lieng but thats true, good point. Thanks man, rep for that.


Edit: Wouldn't you still end up with the ticket because he has you on his radar gun?
Sure, not answering questions aren't going to get you out of a summons (ticket). The goal is to avoid saying anything that could possibly be used against you, which could be anything.

Just last night I was talking to a guy on parole for getting nabbed with over 2 lbs. After the LEO confirmed his insurance and implied he was done (free to go), he just asked a follow up question, "do you have anything in the car like weapons, drugs or anything?"
This guy answered "no", so the cop said, "then you wouldn't mind if I looked, now would you?" which at that puts you in the spot of refusing consent to search (which BTW, this guy said jail taught him all of this stuff. We, hopefully can benefit without having to end up there).

So, here's another phrase to learn and use. "Am I free to go?"
LEOs will often just go on a fishing expedition even after they have given you a ticket or in some situations without even bothering to give a citation. It is important to find out if you are being lawfully detained. Without a certain level of reasonable suspicion, you can't be held.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:11 PM
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Sure, not answering questions aren't going to get you out of a summons (ticket). The goal is to avoid saying anything that could possibly be used against you, which could be anything.

Just last night I was talking to a guy on parole for getting nabbed with over 2 lbs. After the LEO confirmed his insurance and implied he was done (free to go), he just asked a follow up question, "do you have anything in the car like weapons, drugs or anything?"
This guy answered "no", so the cop said, "then you wouldn't mind if I looked, now would you?" which at that puts you in the spot of refusing consent to search (which BTW, this guy said jail taught him all of this stuff. We, hopefully can benefit without having to end up there).

So, here's another phrase to learn and use. "Am I free to go?"
LEOs will often just go on a fishing expedition even after they have given you a ticket or in some situations without even bothering to give a citation. It is important to find out if you are being lawfully detained. Without a certain level of reasonable suspicion, you can't be held.
Got ya. That sucks for that guy you were just talkin to . So he got screwed again as he was leaving?
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Old 01-27-2009, 09:56 PM
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Got ya. That sucks for that guy you were just talkin to . So he got screwed again as he was leaving?
He screwed himself. Once when he consented to searching the vehicle and then he also consented to them opening up the sealed box the weed was in.

Ed Rosenthal has a couple of books, one, Ask: Ed marijuana Law,discusses things like this including how you can have legal control over a box but not be the owner, hence distancing you from the contraband if they do open the box, which again, even if not owned by you, since you control it, have the authority to decline consent.
This is opposed to denying you own the box which then the police can search without consent.
So for example, if you are transporting large quantities, it might be a good idea to have it sealed in a package addressed to a different individual, or just have someone else's name on it (doesn't even have to be real). You can claim control but not ownership.

But basically, it should never come down to that because you should be declining searches and you should have given them nothing they can establish as probably cause.
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Man this is all making me wanna learn more of these laws. Seems like it would be really helpful
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informative, but uh....... that guy needs to take toke and slow down....................
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That was an incredible video, i feel much more knowledgeable
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informative, but uh....... that guy needs to take toke and slow down....................
ya really, I understand everything its just the speed at which he talks at makes the video annoying and I start to lose interest.

No doubt good info though.
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reading these post i was a bit destressed. All of this fuck cops shit, ever watch the show, they deal with drunks, and immigrants who live too many to one place that don't get along and steal from each other. Shit tons of thiefs, wife beaters, murderers and other shit that most of us don't have to deal with. When you give a cop a shit eating look, yea hes gonna fuck with you. Don't hate the cop, hate the laws, don't hate the player hate the game kinda shit. Lets face it, alot times when people get busted they are really abusing the Stuff "using at a bad time/place or too much." Think about it, only the very big "huge grow" and very small "very minor possesion" ever make headlines. So if made it legal, then MJ will be pushed in peoples faces that don't like it. Plus kids may get hold of it too, too early. In my opinion our government is doing the best they can, can't please everyone. The thing is there are alot of folks token that the govn't / census doesn't account for. I think that MJ for energy is really what we are missing out on. Biodiesel, oils, clothing and building materials. Oh yea and those big nasty oil industries paid/proved there way in so maybe thats how the herb thing has to go through. One of you super herb growers gotta smoke out some senators, and have a finest possible quality hemp suit and a biodiesel limosine.
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This is great. Thank you for sharing this!
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