Do Not Talk to the Police

**DreamTime** · 05-06-2012, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by cannofbliss

you completely misunderstood me and my intentions... i am certainly not "butt hurt" or pissy... im just astonished that i even thought to show up and post in this section... something that would give you and everyone a fighting chance against the fraud that the legal system is... and to RECOGNIZE common law as being supreme BECAUSE IT IS... read for goodness sake...

if you argued and just brushed off my earlier points... what would make me want to spend hundreds of hours of putting ALL of the case law and info on here for you or anyone else for that matter to just ignore it???

and you are not "standing up for yourselves" because the only thing i have accused you with is the apparent stupidity and timidness which is exactly what your responses had contained within them...

and NO i am not looking for you to find evidence for me... i am telling you that all of the evidence you need to look for is located at YOUR OWN STATE office where there is piles and piles of paperwork of case law you can read for yourself...

to narrow it down look for cases that have subjects that are of importance... like "drug charges" and other related items...

if you actually have any direct questions that i can answer for you then ask, if you want to just sit there and deny what i am telling you and tell me that it is "unsubstantiated fact"... and... you want to continue to tell me the earth is flat then i have no conversation with you...

because how could i discuss law with someone who hasnt even the BASIC comprehension of what i had ALREADY stated and explained what it is???

and how could you comprehend or even want to listen anything else i have to say in respect TO WHAT I ALREADY TOLD YOU...

here is the us site if you want to use the internet for info regarding some stuff here.... you seem to want 9,000 pages already from me when you wont even read or educate yourself further on the only 1-2 pages ive already given you... so here you go...

library of congress........................... http://thomas.loc.gov/home/lawsmade.toc.html

court records(for case law).................................. http://www.uscourts.gov/CourtRecords.aspx

uniform commercial code..................http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/ucc.table.html

and etc........................... here you go... theres a few sources to get you started....

if you have a specific subject you have questions on just ask and i can help clarify it for you...

It is unfortunate that for all the studying you claim to have done, you appear to be incapable of, or uninterested in presenting your arguments in a rational format that a critical thinker would take seriously.

**cannofbliss** · 05-06-2012, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by DreamTime

It is unfortunate that for all the studying you claim to have done, you appear to be incapable of, or uninterested in presenting your arguments in a rational format that a critical thinker would take seriously.

nevermind... carry on... and take care...

**Doer** · 05-06-2012, 08:25 PM

This thread has come full circle into silly. The thread is about not confessing. The idea of not giving your name is just plain stupid.
If you didn't watch the rebuttal in the same preso by a police officer. If cannofbliss is recommending not confessing to anything, I agree.
Just listen to this. Name rank and serial number only.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...22229458915912

**cannofbliss** · 05-06-2012, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Doer

Dude, you are just not making any sense. You are recommending that I should have variously:
- submitted to being a punching bag until I was puking blood, but never give my name
- never have ID or have submitted to fingerprints
- no hospital or dental records
- no identifying marks are even a description
- never vote or use credit cards
- no Utilites or auto

Just sit mute in jail while I have re-occuring cell cleaning accidents.
You are ranting, not providing help. I've had plenty of time to study Law also. Cite some references.
Else you are just sounding like Wesley Snipes.

well the punching bag would have been years in jail for the officer had he done so and you knew what actions to pursue against him lawfully... and as officer should know that they dont do well with other prisoners if you know what i mean...

what he did was more of an "empty threat"... they are taught to do so to "assert dominance" to show intimidation... and you let him, regardless of you being afraid of the "consequences"...

as for the other things only not having any id, credit card, and a drivers license are the only things you would lack as you could still use many other methods of sustenance and other forms of transportation...

if this is all too inconvenient... then i guess that is the price you pay for your liberty...

and just like where Wesley Snipes FAILED... i have LEARNED from observation of what parts in which people have succeeded and more importantly their mistakes... he made all of the mistakes i mentioned NOT TO DO and that is why he ended up in federal prison...

just call your ssa office then your attorney general... and ask them what would it be considered if someone or agency created an identity in which that baby would be held accountable to be UNDER the jurisdiction OR also importantly CUSTODY of another... even THEY WOULD TELL YOU THAT IS FRAUD... and then ask could that newborn have been able to give his or her consent as informed consent??? and the answer is simply NO...

do it im serious... this is all part of the research i have done... call your ssa and ask them seriously if someone or agency created an identity for that baby without their consent(babies cannot give their consent cause well they are just babies and do not have the mental faculty to give consent) they will tell you that is fraud and you might be surprised at their reaction when they realize "why you are calling for" and start to ask for your name...

you dont realize it but you and i were born into bondage as a commodity for the corporation that is so named the united states of america... which is owned by private banks... it didnt used to be this way, but has changed DRAMATICALLY and ever so surreptitiously since the beginning of the last century...

answer me these two SIMPLE questions and if you can answer it then you are able to be helped... if not then you wont even be able to help yourself...

are you a "person"???
is a state a "person"???

**cannofbliss** · 05-06-2012, 10:28 PM

well at least i have less to worry about being "silenced" by govt agencies for releasing this info...

since i guess they brainwash the people so well they get the people to do the silencing for them... good grief...

again just go about your business and nevermind... i guess im a sucker for coming back to this thread, and trying to help people... especially those in the riu community, considering you know the whole stupid prohibition thing...

and AGAIN SPEAKING OF SILENCE...

YOU HAVE TO ASSERT YOUR RIGHTS AND DO NOT LET THEM LIMIT YOUR RIGHTS... BY TELLING YOU WHAT ONES YOU CAN OR CANT HAVE...

YOU WANT MORE EVIDENCE...

HERE IS ONE REGARDING WHY YOU SHOULD NOT REMAIN SILENT... NOT ONLY IF YOU DONT SAY ANYTHING OR ARE SILENT, AND IN BY DOING SO YOU ARE GIVING IMPLIED CONSENT TO BE UNDER THEIR AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION...

BUT ALSO ANOTHER REASON WHY YOU CANNOT BE SILENT WITH THE POLICY ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS... read the article regarding the thompkins case... and REMEMBER CAREFULLY WHAT I SAID ABOUT "AFFIRMATIVE" RESPONSES...

NEVER GIVE THEM ANY AFFIRMATIVE RESPONSES TO ANY OF THEIR QUESTIONS...

SO YOU MUST SPEAK UP TO ASSERT YOUR RIGHTS... ESPECIALLY BY LETTING THE POLICY ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS KNOW THAT THEY CANNOT DENY YOU YOUR INHERENT RIGHTS AND OR LIMITING THEM BY READING TO YOU WHAT YOU CAN OR CANT HAVE...

AND WHEN THEY ASK YOU "DO YOU UNDERSTAND"??? DONT ANSWER IN THE AFFIRMATIVE!!!

ANSWER LIKE I TOLD YOU EARLIER... and when doing so you dont have to answer with "an attitude" just be firm AND be clear about it...

here are the articles...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060102114.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/02/us/02scotus.html

**cannofbliss** · 05-06-2012, 10:41 PM

and just so you know im not "screaming" or angry at all when i use caps lock... its just alot easier to point out important statements that way, as it is difficult enough to convey any effective means of clear inflection and communication through typing...

**Doer** · 05-06-2012, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by cannofbliss

and just so you know im not "screaming" or angry at all when i use caps lock... its just alot easier to point out important statements that way, as it is difficult enough to convey any effective means of clear inflection and communication through typing...

It's simply the same as RAISING YOUR VOICE. We get it. And I do realize this. You seem a little condescending. You say this like it's a bad thing.

You see me as a sheep, I see you as a shrill and helpless, whiner. So what? I vote for the American way, use my wits to stay out of trouble and then go and have a life. You act like you just woke up yesterday. I like law and order. You seem to be a Snipesian anarchist. I just live off the fat of the lamb, as far as you're concerned. So, the lecturing and rhetorical questioning to test if we deserve your "help," seems a bit much. I went and re-read your posts just to be sure. Yep, still pretty meaningless and somewhat egotistical...just sayin.

"you dont realize it but you and i were born into bondage as a commodity for the corporation that is so named the united states of america... which is owned by private banks... it didnt used to be this way, but has changed DRAMATICALLY and ever so surreptitiously since the beginning of the last century...

**cannofbliss** · 05-06-2012, 11:35 PM

did you bother to read the articles i provided for you regarding not to be silent to police???

and i suppose all is fair for me now having to defend my position...

so i apologize if i had come off in that manner, it is just that it pains me to see such disregard for when someone is trying to help... and that attitude i saw with such disregard, is the same attitude that keeps this whole terrible cycle of prohibition going, amongst a multitude of other unjust things...

law and order can be a good thing... if done right and with your rights protected...

i wasnt at all making the implication nor invoking "without rule" because as any country is to stand... there needs to be people who will lead others not by tyranny and oppression... but by ensuring that the interests are "for the people" and not for the benefit for the ones who have been "given that authority from the people"...

apparently... i was being confusing by using "caps" as opposed to just bolding or highlighting statements... as it wasnt my intention for it to be read as "screaming voice" although i can now see were it stands... i used it just as a mere lazy attempt at bolding statements for highlighted importance...

i certainly dont have the whole "im awake" disease that so many spiracy nuts claim... so i dont claim to be more knowledgeable or more "authoritative" than anyone else...

i asked questions to try and incite those who were in such disregard and disdain for my statements to help invoke a response to actually look up these things so that others can gain a reasonable perspective on the subject of what law still is... and how the legal system, currently disguised as law, how it is used and how it differs...

and how it has been manipulated and corrupted... and even more as a negative about it it has been done all at our expense...

if i had seemed too condescending towards you then you shouldnt take it as an insult and or had internalized them as a detriment to your ego... as i too understand what you mean by living in the present... but that shouldnt mean that you cannot prepare yourself for such a reasonable cause to better protect yourself...

by not taking my advice into "any" consideration and in such "almost" ridiculing the very nature of them...

that left your posts to have the interpretation that you were either lacking in any knowledge regarding the subject... and or you were just completely disregarding my statements as having any viable weight and or fact to them out of sheer obstinacy...

i just stated what i had found to be facts...

and people can choose to take them and use them for their benefit... or people can just choose to ignore them... and just simply carry on with their lives, as i would never tell someone or force someone what they can or cant do with their own lives...

i just made a suggestion based upon my knowledge and experience in this matter and i would hope that there would be a much better way to convey this in a manner that most could understand...

**Doer** · 05-07-2012, 08:42 AM

Maybe if you just gave a plain summary instead of ranting the longest posts I've ever seen..,.

Maybe put your advice in bullets, becuause I swear I'm more confused now. Just 2-3 bullets of what you suggest. I'm tired of what people, including myself, insist.

**born2killspam** · 05-07-2012, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by cannofbliss

well the punching bag would have been years in jail for the officer had he done so and you knew what actions to pursue against him lawfully... and as officer should know that they dont do well with other prisoners if you know what i mean...what he did was more of an "empty threat"... they are taught to do so to "assert dominance" to show intimidation... and you let him, regardless of you being afraid of the "consequences"... as for the other things only not having any id, credit card, and a drivers license are the only things you would lack as you could still use many other methods of sustenance and other forms of transportation... if this is all too inconvenient... then i guess that is the price you pay for your liberty... and just like where Wesley Snipes FAILED... i have LEARNED from observation of what parts in which people have succeeded and more importantly their mistakes... he made all of the mistakes i mentioned NOT TO DO and that is why he ended up in federal prison...just call your ssa office then your attorney general... and ask them what would it be considered if someone or agency created an identity in which that baby would be held accountable to be UNDER the jurisdiction OR also importantly CUSTODY of another... even THEY WOULD TELL YOU THAT IS FRAUD... and then ask could that newborn have been able to give his or her consent as informed consent??? and the answer is simply NO...do it im serious... this is all part of the research i have done... call your ssa and ask them seriously if someone or agency created an identity for that baby without their consent(babies cannot give their consent cause well they are just babies and do not have the mental faculty to give consent) they will tell you that is fraud and you might be surprised at their reaction when they realize "why you are calling for" and start to ask for your name...you dont realize it but you and i were born into bondage as a commodity for the corporation that is so named the united states of america... which is owned by private banks... it didnt used to be this way, but has changed DRAMATICALLY and ever so surreptitiously since the beginning of the last century... answer me these two SIMPLE questions and if you can answer it then you are able to be helped... if not then you wont even be able to help yourself...are you a "person"???is a state a "person"???

Dude, just recently police tazed and shot an old man to death when he refused help after his medic-alert went off, and those cops aren't being charged.. Police rarely get in trouble for assault, ask Rodney King.And answer one simple question.. Is following your advice the quickest/easiest way to get back out on the streets, or are you just trying to recruit martyrs for your cause??