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Old 07-04-2009, 06:26 AM
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He's full of shit.

All military personnel are full of shit. You have to be a fucking dog to join up.

Walk a mile in their shoes. You are here writing about MJ because someone else has fought your battle for you. Respect veterans, they should have earned it.
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Old 07-04-2009, 06:38 AM
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wow all this fuckin talk makes me wanna just get BLAZED...lol... now IM paranoid as hell....lol....
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Old 07-04-2009, 06:42 AM
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flir what a joke...... check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sudf5xDIhmM
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:25 AM
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Fire one up!!

Track that thermal image...
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Yah, that's why they use thermal imaging for detecting fires outdoors,... because it doesn't work....

Weed has a specific signature, not unique but specific. Thermal imaging CAN detect an outdoor grow. I can understand the wish not to believe it, but it's true....

I agree with the warrant issues, but you need to understand how the real world works as opposed to the paper world. On paper they need a warrant. In reality they locate the grow, never mention it, and then find another pretense to go to that property, imaging long forgotten and never spoken of.
I'm calling shenanigans on this.

Cannabis growing outdoors CANNOT be seen with thermal imaging. FIRES ARE HOT, which is why thermal imaging can detect them. Outdoor cannabis grows can be see from the air BY THE NAKED EYE. It has a very recognizable outline, which is how they spot it.

Cannabis plants are not "hot" enough to distinguish from other plant life from the air with thermal imaging. It isn't a matter of not wanting to believe it, it's a matter of knowing it simply isn't true.

What they're searching for with FLIR or thermal cameras is heat being pumped out of homes or radiating through poorly insulated ceilings. Plants growing outdoors do have a heat signature, but it's impossible to distinguish between a cannabis plant and say, ANY OTHER PLANT.

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Old 07-04-2009, 09:35 AM
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Thermal imaging is the same as heat signature..... so you don't think weed puts out a heat sig? You doubt that a piece of hardware with an accuracy of 1/2 degree won't help identify that sig?

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Thermal imaging is the same as heat signature..... so you don't think weed puts out a heat sig? You doubt that a piece of hardware with an accuracy of 1/2 degree won't help identify that sig?

Fire away... shoot me down, if you can...

IT's ok, at least you and me know what we're talking about is right.

You cant see a weed op with the naked eye, it's just green like the rest of the plant life - it's the difernce in heat sig it puts out which is what they look for. For instance, rose bushes have a very similar heat sig to cannabis.

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I'm calling shenanigans on this.

Cannabis growing outdoors CANNOT be seen with thermal imaging. FIRES ARE HOT, which is why thermal imaging can detect them. Outdoor cannabis grows can be see from the air BY THE NAKED EYE. It has a very recognizable outline, which is how they spot it.

Cannabis plants are not "hot" enough to distinguish from other plant life from the air with thermal imaging. It isn't a matter of not wanting to believe it, it's a matter of knowing it simply isn't true.

What they're searching for with FLIR or thermal cameras is heat being pumped out of homes or radiating through poorly insulated ceilings. Plants growing outdoors do have a heat signature, but it's impossible to distinguish between a cannabis plant and say, ANY OTHER PLANT.

Absolutly everything you just said is void, inaccurate - WRONG.

Why post for no reason man? Whats the point? Learn what your talking about before you bother wasting space.
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We used FLIR in Afghanistan and it can't see through walls. What the cops look for are houses with more than one heat exhaust source, example being a dryer vent and another. The solution is to blow the heat under your floorboards, into your attic, or simply blow it back into the house, never blow it out a window for instance.
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Walk a mile in their shoes. You are here writing about MJ because someone else has fought your battle for you. Respect veterans, they should have earned it.
I've been in the Military(AF).

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I'm going to have to agree with doobnVA.

I've seen many photos of plants taken with FLIR cameras, they typically look like incomprehensible blobs. Especially during day-light.

Most plants have no way to create heat(other than very small amounts from their 'bodily' functions). Well under 1/2 degree. Probably not even 1/10th.

So, anyway, this technology would have to be based on reflected light. During the day this would be impossible, too much interference from the sun. So unless they have a 'spot light', and fly around at night using it.... It doesn't seem likely that they use FLIR for outdoor detection of marijuana plants.

Now then, detecting the people's FLIR heat tending the plants seems a much more reasonable/plausible way of outdoor detection. And on a large op, this seems to be a given.

Prove it? All I've found is conjecture and hearsay on the subject. Zero proof. So where's the proof that has got you guys so sure?
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