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Old 10-23-2008, 10:33 PM
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Default informants and warrants (waht is nessicary)
If one called the cops and told them they know of a cannabis grow and left no name or contact info would a warrant develop or just a "knock and talk" or surveillance?

what if the informant left a name and so on record (i assume). them would a warrant develop?
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chances are much better for a warrant to develop from a known informant.
an anonymous tip rarely leads to more than a knock and talk at best because how do they know im not calling in a fake tip on my neighbors just to sit back and laugh as their door gets kicked in.
if you have nothing else going against you than an anonymous tip no way would a judge ever issue a warrant
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:00 PM
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I'm in alberta Canada. The laws here are pretty strict when it comes to getting an actual search warrant. The police need to have two actual pieces of evidence. For example if you tampered with the electrical to get off the grid plus they found some stalk and rock wool in your garbage. So stay on the grid pay your bills and pay a friend to take wastes strait to the landfill, as well as be nice to your neighbors make then normal cookies unless you know they like the good kind and all should be well.

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My experience says that the tip will probably lead to a month long investigation of your trash, electrical usage, comings and goings. When all this turns up nothing they will send a dog to the door to get a positive hit, so dont be smoking that day or two days later 14 masked assholes will come a knocking or should I say a ramming.
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My experience says that the tip will probably lead to a month long investigation of your trash, electrical usage, comings and goings. When all this turns up nothing they will send a dog to the door to get a positive hit, so dont be smoking that day or two days later 14 masked assholes will come a knocking or should I say a ramming.
Woah. Seriously? An anonymous tip leads to a month long investigation of your trash? No way in hell. An anonymous tip would lead to a knock and talk. That's it. A legitimate tip, say from a known informant might lead to a small investigation, maybe go through your trash, and if they do then maybe for like two weeks, but a month, cops even have better things to do with their time than sort through garbage looking for nute bottles for a month straight.

Second, if they watch you for a month on an anonymous tip, go through your garbage, look into your utility usage, recorded who came and went, what times, who they were and where they were going, and all of this didn't come up with anything, there is no way they would spend the resources to get drug dogs. ESPECIALLy over an annon tip. They would certainly do it if they KNEW you were growing, but not just over a hunch.

What experience do you havethat you make these claims White Widower?
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This depends on City's regulations. In Miami for example you need at least 3 people to report you to the police before they can get a warrant.

Not everywhere is the same.
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This depends on City's regulations. In Miami for example you need at least 3 people to report you to the police before they can get a warrant.

Not everywhere is the same.
Very rarely is this formalized by statute. Usually it is regulated by departmental standards, or judge produced standards. Cheif of Police Red may require 3 annonomous tips, while Cheif Blue may require 4. Judge Black likes at least 2 people, but Judge White will grant a warrant as long as there is 1 reliable person.

It all depends.
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Woah. Seriously? An anonymous tip leads to a month long investigation of your trash? No way in hell. An anonymous tip would lead to a knock and talk. That's it. A legitimate tip, say from a known informant might lead to a small investigation, maybe go through your trash, and if they do then maybe for like two weeks, but a month, cops even have better things to do with their time than sort through garbage looking for nute bottles for a month straight.

Second, if they watch you for a month on an anonymous tip, go through your garbage, look into your utility usage, recorded who came and went, what times, who they were and where they were going, and all of this didn't come up with anything, there is no way they would spend the resources to get drug dogs. ESPECIALLy over an annon tip. They would certainly do it if they KNEW you were growing, but not just over a hunch.

What experience do you havethat you make these claims White Widower?


A copy of the warrent to search my apartment, a felony conviction for manufacture with intent to distribute, 3 years probation and a talk with the annonmous after the fact.

For your information they dont just search trash, they check usage of electric for patterns, and follow you that is what takes a month to come up with prob cause. When none of there tries get that prob cause they will just send a dog in for a hit. You can think they wont spend resources for dogs they already have them out on patrol doing nothing so why not have some fun and a little practice cops think this stuff is fun.

Lastly how do you know what they would do? Have you ever been in this position or know anyone who has? Keep thinking you will get a knock and talk you will see. Let me know what pen you will be in and I will send you some commecary money when your knock and talk is more like a battering ram door bell kid.
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A copy of the warrent to search my apartment, a felony conviction for manufacture with intent to distribute, 3 years probation and a talk with the annonmous after the fact.
Very very sorry to hear that white widower. That truely sucks. Do you have the warrent? I would love to see/read it if you have a copy of it.

You got a felony conviction for manufacture with intent to distribute, and you only got 3 years probation? Was that your first offense? What state are you in? Around here you get ALOT more time than that.

Do you know that the anonymous person was the ONLY piece of evidence the police had against you? How did you know it was that person, if it's anonymous?

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For your information they dont just search trash, they check usage of electric for patterns, and follow you that is what takes a month to come up with prob cause. When none of there tries get that prob cause they will just send a dog in for a hit. You can think they wont spend resources for dogs they already have them out on patrol doing nothing so why not have some fun and a little practice cops think this stuff is fun.
Not to harp on a point, but what experience and/or training do you have to confirm this? If it is your one run in with the law, it would be very difficult for you to be able to say that this is the national standard.

In certain areas, it takes a warrant to check the usage of electric for patterns. Giving up that information is under the discretion of the electricity company, granted most times they give it out without a problem, not all companies and not under all jurisdictions is it like this.

Not all jurisdictions have drug dogs. Dont' automatically assume that everyone has loads of drug dogs just wandering around, because they don't.

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Lastly how do you know what they would do? Have you ever been in this position or know anyone who has? Keep thinking you will get a knock and talk you will see. Let me know what pen you will be in and I will send you some commecary money when your knock and talk is more like a battering ram door bell kid.
A. Chill out

B. No, I have never been in the position, although I know a few people that have. But that doesn't really matter, because when the cops show up with a warrant, they don't give you an explanation of how they "followed you around for a month", or how long they searched through your trash.

C. You don't know anything about me, or my training. As it ends up, I have worked for a state level law enforcement agency, and have gone through more than one training programs, one national. I am also a member of the local, and state Bar Association (for security reasons, I would really prefer not to mention the area, or the state).

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Let me know what pen you will be in and I will send you some commecary money when your knock and talk is more like a battering ram door bell kid.
Kid? HAHA. That's actually funny to me.

But, I can't believe you would put this level of evil on me, or anyone for that matter. I'm just at a loss of words over that statement.

I think I'll just ignore that comment, and move on with my otherwise wonderful day.
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If one called the cops and told them they know of a cannabis grow and left no name or contact info would a warrant develop or just a "knock and talk" or surveillance?

what if the informant left a name and so on record (i assume). them would a warrant develop?
They would probally knock and talk and possibly a fly over the area with FLIR.
 

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