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If you want to know how your state has dealt with this legal issue, let me know what state you're in and maybe if I have some spare time some day I can look it up. |
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Excerpt from Amendment I, Constitution of the United States of America..
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." From a legal standpoint the crux of the matter is... 1) Is your religious belief a sincere belief? 2) Are you a member of an organized religion, and if so does that religion's doctrine mandate or allow the action as part of worship or ceremony either as a group or as an individual? For instance; A jewish high priest, making the holy annointing oil as described in Exodus, Chapter 30, Torah Of course, that's here in the United States of America. Last edited by Qnh Bsm; 09-09-2008 at 10:08 AM.. |
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re·li·gion
Audio Help /rɪˈlɪdʒ ən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uh n] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. 2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. 3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions. 4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. 5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. 6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. 7.religions, Archaic. religious rites. 8.Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow. —Idiom9.get religion, Informal. a.to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices. b.to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.We are all protected from prosecution by our constitutional rights by simply smoking herb we are including it in our religious practices, no matter what religion it is, recognized or not, and that will hold out it court so long as you are well versed and have some rhetorical skill... |
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Christians are forgiven by Christ for their sins right? So if Cannabis consumption is a sin (which I don't see it as, especially if eating is the main form of consumption) then Jesus will forgive you for it, and sinning is part of our daily activities due to the current social status. So we sin to be forgiven, God Judges me, yatta yatta... My religion is life: There is no written doctrine for life, and life is full of endless possibilities and the unknown, thus the Doctrine for life is merely our awareness of life, and our ability to perceive life's realities and infer our observations to others... there is what there is, and what we do with what there is, is our choice. So my choice is to use and medicate with cannabis, that falls within the "doctrine" of my religion, and I believe firmly and completely in life and what I know of its Doctrine... we are all part of life, and therefore part of it as a religion, as we know nothing but our perceptions of our lives. I feel completely confident that my religion will hold up in court, I would just probably take longer and more care in explaining it mare articulately. I really need to get back into the academic world... |
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All I can tell you is that the Supreme Court has declared in past cases that States can deprive people of their religious liberty to smoke marijuana. If you are charged by the Feds, you have a chance at getting off with the religious argument, because there the Federal Courts are the Courts of first instance (where you're trial takes place). That means a *federal* judge oversees the trial. But if you are charged under state law (you are tried by a State judge, not a federal one) that is another story. I'm just telling you how the Supreme Court has ruled. State judges can ignore your religious freedom to smoke pot, and the Supreme court will not overturn their decisions. I know its fucked up, but that is how it is. My state is one of the states that has taken advantage of this and actually does it. People have been convicted, appealed with all their proof of organized religion and longheld traditional beliefs and practices... and the Supreme Court said fuck off. It's a states rights issue, and the states have the right to deny us that particular freedom if they want to. Most every state does deny its citizens that right, I think. If you want to test it out in your state, be my guest. Or if you have a case where a Federal judge overturned a state's denial of the religious freedom to smoke pot, I'd love to see it. |
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Medical patients being prosecuted on the federal level should know that.... I wish they would take advantage of it... because using alternative medicines is part of virtually every religion, including Christianity!
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They're best bet would be to claim Rastafarianism, since that religion has a historical record that is very clear and has case law precedent in the Federal Courts. It is close to Christianity in a lot of ways too (especially certain sections of it). It is sad that recent Christian history does not have the same historical record. Seems evangelical Christians in modern history have ignored the canna-oil that even Christ was probably anointed with. |
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This would be my argument in state court...
Religion is not a matter for state or federal courts. Amendment I expressly forbids Congress from interfering with the free exercise of one's religious beliefs. Religion is not a matter for state legislatures or courts because that power it is expressly delegated to Congress by Amendment I. Therefore, it is not protected as a state or people's right as outlined by Amendment X. Amendment XIV, Section 1 is the kicker. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." It's pretty straight forward. Basically, both state and federal governments should be prohibited from interfering in one's religious beliefs in any way as outlined in the Constitution and its Amendments. Unfortunately, men rule the courts and the legislatures, and let their political careers influence their decisions. Regards Qnh Bsm |
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keep it coming my friends... keep it coming... and please browse through a few of my threads... I think you might find them interesting in the least....
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I have found a case that would be perfect for testing some of the theories that I have regarding the 1st amendment and using it in court as a defense for being in posession of marijuana, and cultivating marijuana...
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