Induction Lights? The newest (supposedly) technology in Induction Grow Lights

I was also curious about these lights. The initial cost is high, but it seems like it would save a lot over time.

my $0.02 on this company...

first off, iGrow is a rebrand on Full Spectrum Solutions. compare the image of where they are made (on the respective sites):
http://www.igrowlights.com/index.php/about-us
http://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com/about_us.htm

so, back in Feb of this year, a local shop donated to me a 200w and a 400w from Full Spectrum Solutions, as I was the first person to even ask the owner about EFDL technology in the 5 months they were sitting at the store.

so, the 200 was rather dim compared to the 400, and they clearly used different phosphor blends. all went pretty well until i was one month into bloom with the 400 and the ballast failed- literally 11 months from the date of manufacture on the ballast label - but not before it's 45 lbs of weight burned out a light mover.

i called FSS and explained that i was using their lights in an indoor horticultural application, and that everything was climate controlled but that one failed. they were SURPRISED that i was using them with agreeable results.

but they didn't want to offer any support on the failed hardware.

i ended up getting in touch with Inda Gro, and explained the situation. It was explained to me that Darryl, of IG, used to work at FSS, and that 6+ years ago was telling them that they needed to make horticultural lights. they refused for years and so he went on to eventually start Inda Gro.

well, he was eager to take in the failed lamp since FSS abandoned it. i got a great deal on my first 420 and 200 for IG and was able to see that the FSS 200 is literally half the light intensity of the Pro-200-PAR. months later, i am now happily running 3 420s in bloom and 2 200s in veg. i have the FSS 200 sitting in the corner of the dining room floor...

i suggest that anyone considering FSS/iGrow also takes a look at www.indagro.com. i have personal experience using both of these lines of lights, and to be totally honest, i wouldn't run those "iGrow" pieces of shit if i took the cheap route and ordered them direct from FSS at the original MSRP, which is HALF of what they are listed at under the iGrow name.

seriously.

i compared the FSS/iGrow 400 at the FSS MSRP of $650 vs the IG4320 at $795, and was very happy to have gone IG (and to this day, i am immensely pleased). at $1200 under the iGrow brand, that's just a downright criminal ripoff.


by the way, if you click the link in my sig, it'll take you to my first post in that thread, and the video i first linked was when i had the single FSS 400 running on the mover in the tent.

Originally Posted by ineffablegreen

I totally recognize the guy from those sure to grow videos though. I guess he's moving on to lighting...

he's a paid face for their ads.

he's also in these videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hC9LrpeNT4

Gandohar welcome to RIU. For your first post ever to these forums could you tell us what makes you curious about these lights? Have you seen any cannabis gardens that have used these lamps? Have you seen any cannabis specific journals? Perhaps any other threads on any other cannabis forums you might point to that would stir our curiosity as well?

Hiya Spliff! Good to hear from you buddy and hope the gardens are purring 4 ya! I can only add to your IGrow 'criminal ripoff' comments with the following:

That's Matt Getsche formerly of R&M Supply and Sure to Grow. Matt worked with the IGrow guys for a while, until they screwed him over and discarded what he stands for in terms of straight honest talk to the indoor gardener. Matt left when iGrow tried to set up this national distribution network of hydro shops that would push a 'must buy' 2 lamp solution @ somewhere in the $1,600 range, that's per fixture, for both a veg and a flower lamp. Matt's a good guy, a tremendous resource for indoor gardening and he got away from this brand just as fast he could.

Matt's Facebook page say's it better than I could;

Just to be clear in case anyone was confused by a series of bootleg videos recently released to the net. I DO NOT REPRESENT OR SUPPORT THE IGROW INDUCTION LIGHTING SYSTEM. Once again I Matt Geschke, formerly known as Matt the Grower and Matt the Grow Guy in no way supports or encourages anyone to buy this light. It is not the lamp or ballast that I developed while in their employ. PLEASE DO NOT BE MISLED. Knowledge is power and truth is the light. With that said, here at Brotherhood we are gonna keep on shinin' and the truth WILL be revealed. Blessing and bountiful harvests.

Matt Geschke
Managing Partner
Brotherhood Products

checkout indagro

Thanks for the welcome Chaz.
After a couple days of google searches and forum digging I found that igrow does seems to be a re-branded ripoff. I've found much more info on inda-gro lights and they seem much better (especially in price)
I'm interested in the 420pars because of a few factors: less heat, lower electrical bill, more stealth, little to no need for AC, etc etc.

I was originally going to set up with 1000w hps. From what I've read the inda-gros can't quite match them...I'm wondering if that slight lack shows itself in yield and quality. It seems, from what I've read, quality isn't a problem but I haven't seen much info on yield gain/loss. I love the idea of a lower electrical bill....and not having to worry about ducting and AC...but will my yield suffer?

Hiya Gandohar! I don't know much about igrow other than what was Spliff's and Matt's experience but they're both straight shooters who I respect and if either one of these guys say's they're out to screw growers that is all I need to know. Fuck that. The good hydro shops will do their due diligence and no matter what not push something that is short term profits but long term bullshit. If igrow is all that than let them put up some of their lights to Psuagro or even me and we'll take a run with them. But if they don't double the yield of an Inda-Gro run with their two lamp solution (what a pain in the arse) and at the prices they're trying to charge they're already fully medicated and need more help than these forums can provide.

Inda-Gro will treat you right and they're not priced out of reach. 10 years from now you'll be lookin at the same lamp that keeps on pushin up babies to ladies bro. In terms of yield comparisons I would compare the 420 series to a 1000 watt MH and a 750 HPS. Getting between .75 and 1.25 g/w is the usual first time experience with the 420's than you adjust methods accordingly to optimize subsequent runs.

Stay safe

check this thread, this guy did very well imo

200W induction grow w/ Sannies Kolossus