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    Default Plasma Lighting, New 500 watt systems to be released soon!!!

    Luxim, the company that provides the 300 watt Plasma technology used in Gavita's Pro 300 LEP, and Chameleon's Solar Genesis I, is releasing a 500 watt version of their Plasma lighting. The 500 watt light appears to have the same spectrum as their current 300 watt system, but produces 45,000 lumens compared to the 23,000 lumens of the 300 watt model. That's 95% more lumens total, and 18% more lumens per watt.

    I know the grow results have been amazing in veg with the 300w, and the final quality has been equally impressive... it's just the weight that's been lacking. Hopefully this new light will solve that weakness.

    The lighting manufactures are aware it's in the pipeline, and anxiously awaiting its arrival. It has been hinted that the new system will likely be available for purchase in the 1st half of 2013, possibly sooner. Summer will be so much cooler with the proper lighting.

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    If anybody is growing with the current 300w plasma systems, feel free to post your experiences and pictures here.
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    Hiya Acid!

    You appear to have the inside track here. I'm not sure why we're talking up an in increase in lumens. Those are visual spectrums not plant spectrums. Please explain how this benefits our plants.

    For growers currently running the 300 watt version of the Luxim LEP it's suggested, to pick up weight, they add a second R/FR/IR source (while also running the 300 watt LEP) like the 1000 watt Phillips HPS lamp (which runs @ 1,200 degrees F) for flower since the LEP alone produces little in these regions. And that gets a bit pricey.

    http://download.p4c.philips.com/l4b/...eu_pss_aen.pdf

    No disputing the LEP is a great veg lamp but does the new 500 watt LEP than eliminate the need for a separate flowering lamp? If so I'll do a side by side.

    Thanks for sharing
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazbolin View Post
    Hiya Acid!
    You appear to have the inside track here. I'm not sure why we're talking up an in increase in lumens. Those are visual spectrums not plant spectrums. Please explain how this benefits our plants.
    Because it's the only measurement relating to light output that they list on their site, that and many other bulb manufactures only list lumens as well, such as EYE Hortilux. The increased lumen output of the 500 watt plasma puts it's lumen output, per watt, solidly between MH and HPS... but with a much better spectrum than even Dual-Arc bulbs are capable of. The 300 watt has a lumen output per watt that is slightly lower than MH.

    Because of Plasma's fairly uniform spectrum (no spike in the visual range) the amount of light being increased in the PAR range should be similar to the increase in the visual range. You will notice that both the Hortilux Blue and the Philips CMH both spike in the visual spectrum, meaning their lumen rating is even less of an indicator of PAR watts than the Plasma's.

    The Following charts compare the Plasma's spectrum to the Hortilux Blue, and the Philips MasterColor CMH... two bulbs with arguably the best (all around) spectrums for growing. The 500 watt Plasma puts out more lumens per watt than the 400 watt versions of the Hortilux or Philips bulbs, this was not the case with the 300 watt version. In both the following charts the plasma has a much higher relative energy spread than the Hortilux Blue and Philips CMH bulbs.

    The 500 watt Plasma should have minimal cooling requirements compared to the 400-600 watt bulbs that they are designed to replace. Good news for everyone tired of running their Air Conditioners full blast during the summer.

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    Why would anyone buy this when sulfur plasma is right around the corner for consumer release........and the new philips elite agro 315w CMH bulb fairs quite a bit better than it's older cmh bulbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUAGRO. View Post
    Why would anyone buy this when sulfur plasma is right around the corner for consumer release........and the new philips elite agro 315w CMH bulb fairs quite a bit better than it's older cmh bulbs
    PSUAGRO; FYI the Luxim is a sulfur plasma technology.

    AcidKing; Based on your response I was not able to determine if the new 500 watt version would be the only lamp I would need from veg-flower. Also you state that the 500 watt plasma is designed to replace a 400-600 watt lamp. What did you mean by that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazbolin View Post
    PSUAGRO; FYI the Luxim is a sulfur plasma technology.

    AcidKing; Based on your response I was not able to determine if the new 500 watt version would be the only lamp I would need from veg-flower. Also you state that the 500 watt plasma is designed to replace a 400-600 watt lamp. What did you mean by that?
    Shit^^^you are correct it is a sulfur technology/idk what i was thinking...........but I meant this tech http://www.plasma-i.com/ <<gonna be a good/maybe
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    If I ever give plasma a whirl, it will be from plasma-i. it's really disgusting how many lights I want to try out.

    Still too many leds to try and also want to give induction a shot at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puffenuff View Post
    If I ever give plasma a whirl, it will be from plasma-i. it's really disgusting how many lights I want to try out.

    Still too many leds to try and also want to give induction a shot at some point.

    Dont you want to stop spending money on lights at some point!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endur0xX View Post
    Dont you want to stop spending money on lights at some point!!!
    Don't be silly! I'll be upgrading yearly or every other year as long as the technology keeps improving. I'm just as bad with other stuff like TVs and computers. And if I don't spend my money, the lady will...so it's either lights or heels and she was way more heels than I have lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puffenuff View Post
    If I ever give plasma a whirl, it will be from plasma-i. it's really disgusting how many lights I want to try out.

    Still too many leds to try and also want to give induction a shot at some point.
    I know your anti HID but you gotta be impressed with these specs http://gel-usa.com/pdf/CeramaTek_315w.pdf allot of growers should be considering this bulb/ballast combo for future grows........95% lumen maintenance at 20000 hrs/120lm per watt on a CMH! direct competition with leds and efdls for longevity too....philips really hit this outta the park.............still in testing! Just let me buy one dammit!!

    edit...check the ballast specs too........automatic self dimming with temp increases/photo cell/can run the remote ballast up to 85 feet/ballast consumes 15w!/etc.....sorry bin excited for this for a long time and my money's ready:P
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