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    ok guys i am having a lot of problems with led, i thought i had it sorted by adding more iron but the problem is back, i grew two plants under blackstar240 2012 uv bloom model and they both died ( leaves started burning from the tips and all fell off ) that was in soil, this time i went coco to get better nutes into the plant and same thing is going on again, ive tried less nutes and more nutes and cal-mag and iron and nothing is helping, first few days was really good growth then it just seems to die. i am using canna A&B gave it 3ml per liter and cut it back to 2.3ml per liter. the burning starts at the bottom fan leaves and works its way up, i have the led at 16 inches above the plants and temps ect are fine, ph is 5.8 in coco, can anyone spread any light on whats going on as ive never had problems growing with cfl or hps and now i had to put them back under a 250w mh as i cant kill these plants again. plus rep for wisdom
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    Oh yeah many people have told me many things and none have worked, so unless you are growing with led and know what the problem is please dont bother to leave your two cents
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    Have you grown with the soil mix from THIS bag? I hate soil. So much more control with hydro/aero, but then you have to get up to speed on a few things, which are easy to master

    The only other thing it could be is your water


    I may not get back to your thread, but think this will help.

    If you want ideas on how to go hydro click on my journal

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    like i said i grew with soil and they died, now i am trying growing them in coco and same thing is going on, i am not looking to go hydro i am looking to find out what the fuck is going on with my leaves all burning away, they do not burn away under hps, also i ph my water to 5.8 with a ph meter how could my water be the problem? it never was before
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    If its the light then try raising the light. Usually if light burns the plant like that. Its either too much heat or too much infrared spectrum in turn too much heat.

    With coco u do not add cal mag. Just mag. Theres already calcium in coco as well as potassium. So more than likely you have nute lock. It also looks like nitrogen burn. If you are using botanicare cal mag. That has edta in it. That will burn the shit out of your plants. If you even barely go over.



    Also how often do you water. You could be over watering. That mimics phos burn. But the leaf tips usually curl a little and burn and dry out. I water twice a week no matter what size pot.
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    I grow in coco under leds too. Good news is your problems don't look too bad...yet. You said you tried calmag, how many ml per gal did you try and how long were you adding this? were you seeing new leaves being affected while using calmag? Also, what other nutes besides canna a & b are you using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hyroot View Post
    If its the light then try raising the light. Usually if light burns the plant like that. Its either too much heat or too much infrared spectrum in turn too much heat.

    With coco u do not add cal mag. Just mag. Theres already calcium in coco as well as potassium. So more than likely you have nute lock. It also looks like nitrogen burn. If you are using botanicare cal mag. That has edta in it. That will burn the shit out of your plants. If you even barely go over.
    You can use calmag in coco with out lockout...i use it every feeding. Have you personally experienced this?
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    Yes with canna coco. But not roots coco. I use roots original soil now

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    Well I also use canna coco, along with canna nutes supplemented with magical, and no lockouts...ever. Interesting to see quite different experiences.
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    really sorry Man
    The look like mine looked! I would flush properly ... and leave them with no nutes for a day or two, than resume (I wish I'd done that straight away)
    Mine ended up worsening and full plant wilted .... they are still alive and will harvest soon but what a harvest ahahah (ridiculous). Mine they look more like sick now, like those forms of phytium? So I think that developed along the way .... plus they were already burning and all like yours

    anyway am not a experienced grower so I am sorry, but def flush if you havent! and maybe make a good list of everything, leaves affected lower or upper or generalized, and everything else you can throw in .... maybe with some advice you can correct things ..... I wish you will.
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    I'm no plant doctor but since it's happening with the very young plants and at the bottom of the plants and not the top where the new growth is, it's not the light.

    I would look at the water's ph maybe it's making some weird nute-lockup being that low, forcing the plant to get it from the lower leafs instead.

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