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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefbisquit View Post
    Ohhhh... I thought you had 16" total height. 12" for the bucket, and 4" left over.

    If you have 36" height, and the bucket is 12", you've got lots of room. More than enough.
    Thanks for the feedback and info Beefbisquit.

    Yea my 2 clones are 10-12'' tall plus the height of the 2.5gal(12" tall by themselves) buckets I'll be using next. That Blackstar does look good though i was wondering if there are panels that can switch from blue to red so i don't have to but 2 different panels cuz I've only got about $170 to work with. If not I can definitely swing for a red and blue 15w i asked you about.

    I don't mean to post all over your thread but I'm not finding good details in my searches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imlovnit24/7 View Post
    Thanks for the feedback and info Beefbisquit.

    Yea my 2 clones are 10-12'' tall plus the height of the 2.5gal(12" tall by themselves) buckets I'll be using next. That Blackstar does look good though i was wondering if there are panels that can switch from blue to red so i don't have to but 2 different panels cuz I've only got about $170 to work with. If not I can definitely swing for a red and blue 15w i asked you about.

    I don't mean to post all over your thread but I'm not finding good details in my searches.
    The Blackstar has blue/red/IR/UV/white LED's in it - it will work excellent from germination to flowering.

    Advanced LED makes a switchable LED system, but it's out of your price range. I've got some great info on E.shine systems, they claim to be the manufacturer of the Advanced LED systems - but are selling their product for much cheaper.

    Remember, these are unverified reports coming from the manufacturer - but E.shine systems have been very upfront about volunteering information about their products. I really want to test one of these products so I can give you guys some better insight with regards to the quality of these lights.

    http://www.eshinesystems.com/grow/3g...row-light.html - Is switchable from Blue/red, might fit your budget!

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    Oh ok cool, it looked like that UFO was for flower only, though I'll checkout the eshinesystem site as well

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    e. Shine is definitely interesting. I visited their website and was greeted by a sales rep via a pop up chat window. The rep was helpful in answering questions and it was nice to have a live interaction with someone, but it was pretty vague info and their wording was careful.

    I asked about advanced led, they said they make them. I asked what would be the differences if I boughtfrom them vs advanced and he said the price would be cheaper. then he quickly corrected himself and said the price could be cheaper.

    You'll notice their 3g models advertise 1w leds, but have the option to use 3w if requested. I have a feeling, but didn't confirm, that the more changes you make to their models (say to build one with all identical components and specs as advanced) the prices will go up. Once you have an e. Shine system built identically to advanceds diamonds, you might not be saving as much as originally thought. Worth looking into at least because it looks like they have baseline models that you can configure and im sure the price changes to reflect those configs.

    I also asked about their 4g lights and he said the only one available right now is an aquarium light. He said the 4gs will include cree leds and he offered to email me the announcment when released, so something else coming out from them too.

    Just some thoughts to take into consideration. I need to go back and ask more questions to get a better feel for e shine but the idea of buying from the source is intriguing.
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    [QUOTE

    Advanced LED makes a switchable LED system, but it's out of your price range. I've got some great info on E.shine systems, they claim to be the manufacturer of the Advanced LED systems - but are selling their product for much cheaper.

    Remember, these are unverified reports coming from the manufacturer - but E.shine systems have been very upfront about volunteering information about their products. I really want to test one of these products so I can give you guys some better insight with regards to the quality of these lights.

    http://www.eshinesystems.com/grow/3g...row-light.html - Is switchable from Blue/red, might fit your budget![/QUOTE]

    I just checked these out and other than using the same heatsink, nothing else is the same. Only 1w diodes, much fewer spectrums and dont have the special lens like Advanced. But for a small cabinet, they may work great. The 1w diodes will allow the unit to be closer to the canopy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somedude247 View Post

    I just checked these out and other than using the same heatsink, nothing else is the same. Only 1w diodes, much fewer spectrums and dont have the special lens like Advanced. But for a small cabinet, they may work great. The 1w diodes will allow the unit to be closer to the canopy though.
    They actually have a 126x3w and 150x3w panels as well, I might be picking one up and doing a journal with one to give you guys some clear and concise results. They also do have lenses on them, just not the exact same lenses. You can tell them exactly what spectrum you would like as well. They use Epistar and Bridgelux LED's.

    This is the configuration I might run;

    Eshine 3G 150x3W LED grow panel with 60 degree optics
    370-380nm x 5
    3000 k warm white x 16
    510-530nm x 8
    630nm x 22
    660nm x 68
    IR 730 x 5
    440-450nm x 26


    What do you think? I'm interested in getting feedback to perhaps "tweak" the spectrum!

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    Well, I missed some info. Maybe they do build for Advanced. But regardless, the only things I would change is the 3000k warm white, make it a 680nm or so, and maybe some 710nm- 8 of each. And unless you want a smaller footprint, Id go with 90 degree over 60. And if you can get 4 or so 830nm, I would, and go with 64ish with the 660nm. Just my thoughts.

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    They did send me a catalogue with the new 4g a few days ago!
    if anyone wants, I can email it to you? Dont think I can upload it here can I?
    Yeah, if you want the x-lenses they can def do it for you? (even on the ones that looks like the advanced case)
    I think the original configuration they have on the 126 Xlenses is the same as penetrators?
    It would be great if anyone could go forward and experiment with them!
    I would personally ask for the 660nm to be 60 lenses and all the rest 90 lenses! I mean mix them up... it seems to work well for blackstar?
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    They really look like quality lights!

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    the latest lights i ordered had the following spectrums

    6 red 660
    5 red 630
    2 blue 450
    1 blue 430
    1 white 3,000K

    in groups of 15 leds

    this i think covers all the main areas, with a focus on flowering, i can post a picture that shows the led colurs quite clearly if you want.

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